Kumar Sangakkara and Adam Gilchrist

[adharcric]

well from what i've seen i don't think thats true, for example in the 2004 series between AUS/SRI when both Murali & Warne had pitches that assisted them superbly, both Gilly & Sanga handled them extremely well.

How does that tell you anything about how hard it is to keep to Murali?

 

[aussie]

On pitches that assit them greatly as was the case in Sri Lanka that year, both have them have great variety & thus it would have been difficult for both Gilly & Sanga. So if keeping to Murali or Warne was harder, either keeper would have had problems when they let go their full repertoire..

 

[marc71178]

But how does both keepers keeping well to the respective spinner tell you anything about raelative difficulty of keeping to the 2 spinners?

 

[adharcric]

Exactly. Sangakarra may have kept better and that may have covered up the difficulty of keeping to Murali. Not saying that's what happened, but your reasoning is flawed.

 

[JBH001]

True, though it is an interesting question as to who would be mroe difficult to keep to, especially if you add Malinga and maybe Vaas (standing up) into the mix.

Incidentally, something else about Sanga batting at #3 is that he gets to face the new ball a lot more often again fresh pacers than Gilly does.

 

[adharcric]

I think you're taking this out of context. Excepting average and country, do you think these stats have anything to do with position in the batting order? Coming after what has usually been 6 very competent and prolific batsman, do you expect one to feature in record partnerships or score hundreds at a higher frequency. An excellent player like Sangakkara in a lesser team batting in the top 5 should score more hundreds and hit more runs per match etc., I don't think that speaks to the two players' relative value.

That's the biggest load of BS I've ever heard. Sangakarra faces better bowlers when the ball is doing more.
Sangakarra doesn't have teammates who reduce the pressure by rotating the strike and dominating the bowlers.
Gilchrist definitely has it easier.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Gilchrist does have it easier down the order. What he has also been lucky to have is someone else up the other end making runs a lot of the time - I'd hazard a guess that there haven't been many occassions where Gilchrist has been the only century-maker in an innings. That comes with the territory of batting @ 7 though, and it's also probably cost his wicket a few times too.

 

[aussie]

Exactly. Sangakarra may have kept better and that may have covered up the difficulty of keeping to Murali. Not saying that's what happened, but your reasoning is flawed.

So is your's, but fair enough overall..

 

[adharcric]

So is your's, but fair enough overall..

Excuse me? I never proposed any reasoning because I didn't have an argument. Just pointed out that yours is flawed.

 

[aussie]

drop it yo, don't lets start a scene..

 

[adharcric]

Sure.