Wicketkeeper for 1946-2006 World XI

[PhoenixFire]

I see, but will Gilly be up to keeping against Warne, Laker and Murali on real sticky turners? Sticky turners are a hell of a lot more difficult than dry crumbly turners.

 

[nightprowler10]

I see, but will Gilly be up to keeping against Warne, Laker and Murali on real sticky turners? Sticky turners are a hell of a lot more difficult than dry crumbly turners.

I doubt Laker will be getting into this XI.

 

[Ikki]

Gilchrist - don't even need to strain the brain for that one.

 

[archie mac]

Knott in a canter, easily the best Keeper I have ever watched, makes Gilchrist look 2nd rate with the gloves in comparison


The Match

Knott misses nothing and scores 12 and 21 with the bat

Gilly misses two tough chances and scores 43 and 55 with the bat

The two he misses go on to score another 123 runs.

Give me the best keeper

 

[Ikki]

Your dismissals stats are wrong for Gilchrist (haven't checked the others) he has the most ever - whatever it is now.

 

[Ikki]

Knott in a canter, easily the best Keeper I have ever watched, makes Gilchrist look 2nd rate with the gloves in comparison


The Match

Knott misses nothing and scores 12 and 21 with the bat

Gilly misses two tough chances and scores 43 and 55 with the bat

The two he misses go on to score another 123 runs.

Give me the best keeper

Why does he have so fewer dismissals then?

 

[marc71178]

Maybe had he kept to a world class bowling attack he'd have got more chances?

 

[Ikki]

Maybe had he kept to a world class bowling attack he'd have got more chances?

Sure? I'm not being a prat about this considering I'm not too knowledgeable in the keeping-aspect. I wonder if anyone can make an argument to show the real difference in that though? There are still 11 wickets to take from each team - regardless of how good your bowlers are.

I reckon Adam is a very good keep and I don't really recall him missing a lot of 'tough chances'. He is more than solid and more than athletic. How much better could you actually be? I mean Knott is behind quite a bit.

 

[archie mac]

Why does he have so fewer dismissals then?

Gil Langley who kept wicket for Aust. said a Keeper should not be judged on how many dismissals he makes but on how many he does not miss.

A hard stat but I can't remember seeing Knott miss any, though I am sure he did

 

[Matt79]

Sure? I'm not being a prat about this considering I'm not too knowledgeable in the keeping-aspect. I wonder if anyone can make an argument to show the real difference in that though? There are still 11 wickets to take from each team - regardless of how good your bowlers are.

I reckon Adam is a very good keep and I don't really recall him missing a lot of 'tough chances'. He is more than solid and more than athletic. How much better could you actually be? I mean Knott is behind quite a bit.

Stats can't really tell us much about the relative quality of two keepers - apart from maybe the byes conceded per innings. Nobody, to my knowledge, has kept detailed stats of dropped catches, and resultant runs, so we're left with what people have seen with their eyes, and written about.

 

[shortpitched713]

Sanga is still easily underrated though. His Test average is now above Gilchrist's, and he's no Geraint Jones with the gloves either. I think he can eventually surpass Gilchrist, if only the SL selectors don't keep picking Jayawardene to take the gloves.

 

[marc71178]

To be fair to Geraint, his keeping has come on in leaps and bounds in the last year.

Unfortunately his batting has gone in reverese.

 

[archie mac]

To be fair to Geraint, his keeping has come on in leaps and bounds in the last year.

Unfortunately his batting has gone in reverese.

True, but would you rate him the best keeper in England ?

 

[JBH001]

Alan Knott for me.

For reasons mentioned already - and I doubt Gillys run scoring abilities on sticky dogs.

(not that my vote is going to make much difference anyways)

 

[bagapath]

even though i voted for gilly and i am happy he is winning this, it is still good to see knott getting some considerable support. a champ like him most certainly deserves this kind of respect.

 

[aussie tragic]

Your dismissals stats are wrong for Gilchrist (haven't checked the others) he has the most ever - whatever it is now.

umm.. no they're not (of course I'm not counting the current match in Perth) and Healy still holds the most dismissals ever

All time record:

Healy: 395 (366/29) --- 119 tests
Gilchrist: 364 (328/36) ---- 87 tests
Boucher: 364 (350/14) --- 96 tests
Marsh: 355 (343/12) --- 96 tests

 

[silentstriker]

Wow, impressive. Healy only averaged 3.3 dismissals per test where Gilly is averaging 4+. Those stats favor Gilly, really.

 

[Ikki]

umm.. no they're not (of course I'm not counting the current match in Perth) and Healy still holds the most dismissals ever

All time record:

Healy: 395 (366/29) --- 119 tests
Gilchrist: 364 (328/36) ---- 87 tests
Boucher: 364 (350/14) --- 96 tests
Marsh: 355 (343/12) --- 96 tests

*Gets his Guiness World Records 2007 book*

Wicket-Keeping - Most Dismissals (Career)

Adam Gilchrist (Australia) secured a total of 384 dismissals (342 catches, 42 stumpings) in 239 matches between 1996 and 2006.

I guess I understood it wrong or Guiness needs to be shot?

 

[aussie tragic]

*Gets his Guiness World Records 2007 book*

Wicket-Keeping - Most Dismissals (Career)

Adam Gilchrist (Australia) secured a total of 384 dismissals (342 catches, 42 stumpings) in 239 matches between 1996 and 2006.

I guess I understood it wrong or Guiness needs to be shot?

I think you must be talking about ODI's. Gilchrist now has 406 dismissals (360c/46st) from 247 ODI matches

 

[Ikki]

I think you must be talking about ODI's. Gilchrist now has 406 dismissals (360c/46st) from 247 ODI matches

I think you're right. Well, told ya I didn't pay too much attention to WK.