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Old 14-12-2006, 05:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 14-12-2006, 05:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Opposite of India, I suppose.

In any case, IMO every country should have a couple pitches for seam, a couple pitches for bounce, a couple that turn, a couple for the batsmen, and at least one complete nightmarish pitch just to keep the bullies in line .

You want to produce complete cricketers that do well in most types of pitches, even if they aren't as dominant on one type.
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Old 14-12-2006, 03:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Pffft. Like this sort of thing hasn't been said a hundred times before. We have bugger-all spinners now, we've had bugger-all spinners in the past, and...... you get the picture
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Pffft. Like this sort of thing hasn't been said a hundred times before. We have bugger-all spinners now, we've had bugger-all spinners in the past, and...... you get the picture
You can't produce spinners unless you produce pitches that support them, same applies for quicks really.
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Be grateful that you only need one spinner rather than three quicks, so you're not as horrendously stuffed as India are when it comes to getting on an aeroplane.
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Old 14-12-2006, 05:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Be grateful that you only need one spinner rather than three quicks, so you're not as horrendously stuffed as India are when it comes to getting on an aeroplane.
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You can't produce spinners unless you produce pitches that support them, same applies for quicks really.
Not sure about that. Pakistan has produced some good quality fast bowling despite the pitches being roads quite often.
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I think its because Spin bowling is learned, pace bowling is born.
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Not sure about that. Pakistan has produced some good quality fast bowling despite the pitches being roads quite often.
There pitches are considerable more supportive to seamers then India or Sri Lanka.
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There pitches are considerable more supportive to seamers then India or Sri Lanka.
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I think its because Spin bowling is learned, pace bowling is born.
I would say its the other way, the first thing most young cricketers are taught is how to bowl pace, so its really learned. Whereas as most quality spinners its just a natural thing, either you have it or you don't
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I would say its the other way, the first thing most young cricketers are taught is how to bowl pace, so its really learned. Whereas as most quality spinners its just a natural thing, either you have it or you don't
Mate, if you know of a place where kids can bowl 85mph+ by the bunch, please let me know where I can find it.
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Mate, if you know of a place where kids can bowl 85mph+ by the bunch, please let me know where I can find it.
Obvisously they don't get taught how to ball fast, that the only natural thing about fast bowling.
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Obvisously they don't get taught how to ball fast, that the only natural thing about fast bowling.
Thats the #1 prerequisite. Then everything else comes in.
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Thats the #1 prerequisite. Then everything else comes in.
Not really if you look at Test Cricket now, three of the best fast bowlers are Vaas, Pollock and McGarth and most grade bowlers in Australia would be faster then them. There is more to pace bowling then how fast you are, it helps but its not the #1 prerequistie.
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