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Murali's run out and the spirit of the game.

Were NZ right o run out Murali?


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nightprowler10

Global Moderator
I've never done it to anyone myself, never that sharp in the field tbh. But I wouldn't have a problem with it in the long run if someone did it to my team. Note that I'd be extremely pissed at first.
 
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nightprowler10

Global Moderator
grecian said:
Yes I watched it too, and Murali clearly tapped his bat down, before walking out to congratulate Sanga.
But the return throw was still in the air. McCullum did nothing against the so-called spirit of the game.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
After the first run was over, murali tapped his bat, but the fielder had just thrown the ball and the umpire motioned murali to get back in his crease. The wicketkeeper then caught the ball and whipped the bails off.

There is nothing wrong with what NZ did.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
silentstriker said:
After the first run was over, murali tapped his bat, but the fielder had just thrown the ball and the umpire motioned murali to get back in his crease. The wicketkeeper then caught the ball and whipped the bails off.

There is nothing wrong with what NZ did.
Shouldn't even be an issue in that case.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Sorry it is, the poll is about the Spirit of the game, Murali clearly wasn't trying for a run, so shouldn't have been run out, IMHO.
 

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
grecian said:
Sorry it is, the poll is about the Spirit of the game, Murali clearly wasn't trying for a run, so shouldn't have been run out, IMHO.

Extensive tests have shown that Murili was born with a bent knee joint that cannot be straightened, he is therefore incapable of running like someone with a normal skeleton and therefore he should be exempt from being Run Out under any circumstances.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Lillian Thomson said:
Extensive tests have shown that Murili was born with a bent knee joint that cannot be straightened, he is therefore incapable of running like someone with a normal skeleton and therefore he should be exempt from being Run Out under any circumstances.
Was it really necessary to stir that up?
 

adharcric

International Coach
Umpire Jerling clearly didn't help the situation either. He started walking in and Murali left the crease after seeing that.
That hand-wave when Murali was already walking down the pitch was such a pathetic excuse for "motioning the batsman to return to the crease". Dire situation overall. Check it out.

In fact, I was about to say that Murali should've confirmed with the umpire before leaving his crease. After seeing the footage, I don't know what to say.
 
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nightprowler10

Global Moderator
I was wondering how long it'd be before it featured on YouTube. After seeing that I have to say that I sympathize with Murali. He quite clearly looked at the umpire before he started walking towards Sangakarra and with the umpire walking towards the striker's end I don't blame Murali for thinking he was safe. Gotta feel bad for Murali. Though, I still don't think McCullum did anything wrong.

BTW, the look on Sanga's face was priceless.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Good post, Jerling was walking in, then said murali should go back to his crease, awful decision in every way.:@
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
grecian said:
Good post, Jerling was walking in, then said murali should go back to his crease, awful decision in every way.:@
Also, I don't think Murali actually saw the umpire telling him to get back in his crease.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
nightprowler10 said:
Also, I don't think Murali actually saw the umpire telling him to get back in his crease.
Definitely didn't, or he'd be back in the crease. His head had already turned toward Sangakarra when Jerling motioned him.
 

Beleg

International Regular
Sangakara's reaction was priceless. Made me laugh and sympathize with him at the same time.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
The more I watch it the worse it looks.

WTF is Murali doing? Why would the ball be dead? There is no way that ball could be considered dead. YOu cant just go wandering out of your crease whilst a throw is coming in.

Im changing my tune on this the more I watch. Previously it left a bad taste, now Im thinking if Murali wants to gift a wicket good luck to him.

I mean what is he doing? Priceless. Discussion should be stopped and Murali must take some personal responsibility (a quality lacking throughout the world, not just cricket) and put his hand up for giving it away. :blink:
 

adharcric

International Coach
Goughy said:
The more I watch it the worse it looks.

WTF is Murali doing? Why would the ball be dead? There is no way that ball could be considered dead. YOu cant just go wandering out of your crease whilst a throw is coming in.

Im changing my tune on this the more I watch. Previously it left a bad taste, now Im thinking if Murali wants to gift a wicket good luck to him.

I mean what is he doing? Priceless. Discussion should be stopped and Murali must take some personal responsibility (a quality lacking throughout the world, not just cricket) and put his hand up for giving it away. :blink:
All that's fine. Now watch it again and focus on Jerling.
 

LA ICE-E

State Captain
no one said it was wrong although i do think it was not going with the spirit of the game...it(something similar) happend before to but the batsmen was reinstated-http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/columns/content/story/144678.html
 

shankar

International Debutant
Goughy said:
I mean what is he doing? Priceless. Discussion should be stopped and Murali must take some personal responsibility (a quality lacking throughout the world, not just cricket) and put his hand up for giving it away. :blink:
It can be both, can't it? Murali was stupid. But it was still against the spirit of the game. (Nothing against NZ though, every team in the world would have done the same in that situation.)
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
All that's fine. Now watch it again and focus on Jerling.
I did and?

What has walking in got to do with anything. I often walk in at the end of an over. Has no bearing on whether the ball was dead.

The ball was still being thrown in for pity's sake. Jerling walking in merely shows Murali's actions took him by surprise and were unexpected.

The hand signal was very unprofessional, (whats he doing giving batsmen advice?) but clearly showed that he considered the ball to be live.

The hand signal was obviously a reaction based on his surprise. Murali was out, should have been out.

Bringing the umpire into the story is passing the buck and irrelevant. The ball was not dead, in fact it was in the air and Murali went for a wander.

As I said, I originally sympathised but now it looks more foolish and I cant see the issue.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
silentstriker said:
Although, from now on, no NZ'er can ever complain about the underarm bowling.
That's exactly my Sentiments. From hereon I have no f****** sympathy for Kiwis who come whingeing about the Under Arm incident. That was within the rules of the game too. But certainly not in the spirit of the game.

Kiwis should never ever be mentioned in the same breathe as sportsmanship.

Looks like Macullum specialises in running people out in this manner when a 50 or 100 is celebrated -


Today's incident was not the first time McCullum was involved in such a dismissal. In August 2005, during the second Test against Zimbabwe at Bulawayo, McCullum ran out the last man, Chris Mpofu, after the batsman turned around after a single had been taken and walked down the pitch to congratulate Blessing Mahwire, who had just crossed fifty for the first time at the international level. Mahwire drove Daniel Vettori to long-on, but Mpofu, after completing the run, ran towards his partner. McCullum took the throw from the deep and whipped off the bails, leaving Mpofu in shock and the match was won in some drama.
The right thing was done in 2 previous instances where men of character and greater sportsmanship played Cricket in a by gone era , which unfortunately will never come back thanks to the likes of Yesterday's incident .

A similar incident took place, involving Tony Greig and Alvin Kallicharran, during the first Test between West Indies and England at Port-of-Spain in February 1974. Having made 142, Kallicharran watched Bernard Julien play the last ball of the first day to Greig at silly point before walking down the pitch towards the pavilion never having returned to his crease from backing up. Greig threw down the bowlers stumps and Kallicharran was given out by Douglas Sang Hue only to be reinstated next morning after the mood of the tour had been soured.

Another such incident involved Javed Miandad and Rodney Hogg when Pakistan toured Australia in 1978-79. During the Test in Melbourne, Hogg tapped a ball to point where Miandad was standing. The ball came to a halt a few yards before Miandad. Thinking it to be a dead ball, Hogg left his crease to do a little bit of gardening on the pitch. Javed picked the ball up and stealthily walked upto the wicket and removed the bails. Hogg, after being given out by the umpire, kicked down the stumps in anger. Mushtaq Mohammad, the captain, withdrew the appeal and called back Hogg. But the umpire Clarence Harvey, officiating in his first Test, insisted on adhering to his 'out' decision.
 

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