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    Black armbands - what a joke !

    Looking forward to having a go at our umps for this on Saturday.......
    ............after the game that is

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/Syd...476254849.html

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    Melbourne umpires did this too.

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    I disagree with the wearing of a black armband because he hasn't died, he lost his job that's all.
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    Eh...they feel strongly about it. If I were an umpire, I probably would too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm
    I disagree with the wearing of a black armband because he hasn't died, he lost his job that's all.
    Exactly. I disapprove of using a symbol of mourning for someone who has died when someone has simply lost their job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm
    I disagree with the wearing of a black armband because he hasn't died, he lost his job that's all.
    Agreed

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    Black armbands aren't only used to mourn the dead. They've been used to make political statements in the past - eg Andy Flower.
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    True, but they referred to that as the "death of democracy", so it was in a sense still a symbol of mourning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_
    True, but they referred to that as the "death of democracy", so it was in a sense still a symbol of mourning.
    Eh. I'm sure this could symbolise the death of something in terms of the umpires.

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    But isn't it a bit of an exaggeration? People were (and still are) dying at the hands of the Zimbabwean government.

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    Says "black ribbons" in the article, TBF. Same principle tho, obviously, just not so ostentatious.

    You may or may not like Hair (I'm probably more in the latter camp TBH), but with the fallout from the 4th test has implicitly eroded umpire's authority to make calls, much as the current nonsense of a chucking law we have has done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    Says "black ribbons" in the article, TBF. Same principle tho, obviously, just not so ostentatious.

    You may or may not like Hair (I'm probably more in the latter camp TBH), but with the fallout from the 4th test has implicitly eroded umpire's authority to make calls, much as the current nonsense of a chucking law we have has done.
    They still have the authority to make the right the calls, if they don't make the right calls then they should be held accountable just like Hair was.

    I have no problem with them wearing ribbons to support him, it good to see umps get behind each other. But it would be more worthwhile getting behind someone who is half decent umpire, not just some show pony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00
    They still have the authority to make the right the calls, if they don't make the right calls then they should be held accountable just like Hair was.

    I have no problem with them wearing ribbons to support him, it good to see umps get behind each other. But it would be more worthwhile getting behind someone who is half decent umpire, not just some show pony.
    They aren't tho, are they? If an ump makes an incorrect LBW call he isn't hauled before an ICC commitee. Well, not yet anyway... They're only "held accountable" regarding certain calls like ball tampering & chucking, which is probably their point with the armbands.

    I mean no-one (not even Hair before his removal from the elite panal) calls chucking any more. & I don't blame them, frankly. Can you imagine the outcry if one of the umps had called Shabbir for throwing (correctly as it would've turned out) in the 1st test v us last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    They aren't tho, are they? If an ump makes an incorrect LBW call he isn't hauled before an ICC commitee. Well, not yet anyway... They're only "held accountable" regarding certain calls like ball tampering & chucking, which is probably their point with the armbands.

    I mean no-one (not even Hair before his removal from the elite panal) calls chucking any more. & I don't blame them, frankly. Can you imagine the outcry if one of the umps had called Shabbir for throwing (correctly as it would've turned out) in the 1st test v us last year?
    There's a huge difference between an incorrect LBW decision and a dubious accusation of ball tampering or chucking. The former involves a spontaneous decision in which a judgment must be made in virtually a second. The latter requires substantial evidence, allows considerable time for observation and has a huge impact on a cricketer's career and reputation. If on-field umpires are too scared to call chuckers and ball-tamperers now, that's fine. The match referee, third umpire or another off-the-field committee should do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00
    They still have the authority to make the right the calls, if they don't make the right calls then they should be held accountable
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    Then why was no action taken against Doctrove?
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