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    Battle of The Spinners

    Well i really do enjoy these battles, so i throught i make one for spinners. I got a bit of spare time over the next month or so, so it will give me something to do.

    I decided to not include Warne and Murali as we all know they will make the final and the thread will probably turn into frame debate. Also when we had the likes of Bradman and Sobers in the other thread, they knocked out a lot of quality guys in the first couple rounds. Also i think it would be a bit more interesting to see who you guys all think is the 3rd best.

    Anyway here is a list of 32, i came up with, hopefully we can add another 16 to it.

    EDIT: List of 50 now

    Abdul Qadir
    Alf Valentine
    Anil Kumble
    Ashley Mallett
    Aubrey Faulkner
    Bapu Nadkarni
    Bert Vogler
    Bhagwat Chandrasekhar
    Bill O'Reilly
    Bishan Bedi
    Bob Peel
    Bruce Yardley
    Clarrie Grimmett
    Colin Blythe
    Daniel Vettori
    Danish Kaneria
    David Allen
    Derek Underwood
    Dilip Doshi
    Erapalli Prasanna
    Fred Titmus
    Harbhajan Singh
    Hedley Verity
    Hugh Tayfield
    Hugh Trumble
    Intikhab Alam
    Iqbal Qasim
    Jim Laker
    John Emburey
    Johnny Briggs
    Johnny Wardle
    Lance Gibbs
    Lindsay Kline
    Mohammad Rafique
    Mushtaq Ahmed
    Mushtaq Mohammad
    Paul Adams
    Paul Strang
    Phil Edmounds
    Ray Illingworth
    Reggie Schwarz
    Richie Benaud
    Saqlain Mushtaq
    Somachandra De Silva
    Sonny Ramadhin
    Stuart MacGill
    Subhash Gupte
    Tony Lock
    Vinoo Mankad
    Wilfred Rhodes
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    Where's Nicky Boje?

    Anyway it looks like a good list, I can't remember many spinners from back in the olden days but you seem to have quite few modern ones. Guys like Danish Kaneria and Harbhajan Singh probably don't deserve to be there.
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    Richie Benaud
    Johnny Briggs
    Bobby Peel (maybe)
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    Quote Originally Posted by haroon510
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    Alright, now go read the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric
    Richie Benaud
    Johnny Briggs
    Bobby Peel (maybe)
    Subhash Gupte
    Richie was meant to be there.

    Briggs and Peel are likely to be added, but i rather olden day spinners to have taken 100 plus wickets. I think one maybe both just have.

    Gupte not sure his record doesn't look great, i guess it depends on the generally view.

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    I think it was Gary Sobers who said Gupte was the best spinner he has ever seen.

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    IIRC there are some on CW who rate Gupte as the greatest of the Indian spinners.

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    I think Warne and Murali should be there, personally. They were in there in the battle of the cricketers and the bowling spells one and it worked out fine, and there are people here who rate other bowlers like Bill O'Reilly and so on ahead of them. It's a different case from Bradman and Sobers.
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    Here are a few more guys to add to a shortlist to be added:

    Bob Peel
    Colin Blythe
    David Allen
    Fred Titmus
    Johnny Briggs
    Johnny Wardle
    Mohammad Rafique
    Paul Strang
    Phil Edmounds
    Reggie Schwarz
    Richie Benaud
    Somachandra De Silva
    Subhash Gupte
    Tony Lock

    I think Gupte, Benaud, Lock and Briggs should he added. The rest i'm not 100% sure about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    I think Warne and Murali should be there, personally. They were in there in the battle of the cricketers and the bowling spells one and it worked out fine, and there are people here who rate other bowlers like Bill O'Reilly and so on ahead of them. It's a different case from Bradman and Sobers.
    Agreed. You can just ask people not to excessively beat controversial issues (chucking, etc) to death like I did in the Ranking the Bowlers thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    I think Warne and Murali should be there, personally. They were in there in the battle of the cricketers and the bowling spells one and it worked out fine, and there are people here who rate other bowlers like Bill O'Reilly and so on ahead of them. It's a different case from Bradman and Sobers.
    Maybe but i think you'll find that are a small percentage that would rate other cricketers, i.e Warne and Murali infront for Sobers like myself. But majority would rate Warne and Murali as No 1 & 2 and daylight 3rd. I don't think they are that much different cases IMO. But the main reason to take them out is we don't get a pointless debate about who is better, ruining the thread. But if a lot of people want them added i will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00
    Here are a few more guys to add to a shortlist to be added:

    Bob Peel
    Colin Blythe
    David Allen
    Fred Titmus
    Johnny Briggs
    Johnny Wardle
    Mohammad Rafique
    Paul Strang
    Phil Edmounds
    Reggie Schwarz
    Richie Benaud
    Somachandra De Silva
    Subhash Gupte
    Tony Lock

    I think Gupte, Benaud, Lock and Briggs should he added. The rest i'm not 100% sure about.
    If you're going to add 16 and have a list of 48, then you should add Peel and Blythe definitely. Maybe Wardle as well.
    If you want to do 32, those two should still make it ahead of guys like Kaneria, Vettori, Adams and Mallett IMO.

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