Which teams would be adversely effected by Cond/Pitches in SA ?

[onemangang]

SL are at the top at the moment but i don't see how they can do well in SA, Murali for one would be ineffective.

Which other team do you think would fail in SA?

 

[royGilchrist]

Murali for one would be ineffective

Murali can spin the ball on a bloody cemented pitch....you are wrong buddy about Murali being ineffective in SA.

 

[Eclipse]

India Sri Lanka and Pakistan will have the most trouble adapting I would say mostly India but they should get over it after a few games.

 

[CricketGuru]

I dont think murali will have any trouble spinning the ball but i think indian batting will be effected a lot at least in the start, but if they cant adjust in the start they might loose out confidence and that will not be a good sign for them.

On the other hand you will see Pakistani fast and medium pacers making a lot of trouble for batsmen, and you will all see wasim back at his best 8D

 

[Rik]

If he plays that is...

 

[CricketGuru]

I am quite sure that acording to ICC rules he can play. Just watch out

 

[marc71178]

I think the sub-continent sides will be the most adversely affected ones, as others have said.

Talking of Wasim - I will yet again say that Pakistan should not play all 3 of Shoaib, Waqar and Wasim, and I would personally get rid of Wasim - he's past it in my opinion.

 

[CricketGuru]

Yeah i agree about the Subcontinent bit but i think wasim is still a bowler who can make a difference in a game and he is still more effective than Waqar in bowling.

I think that Wasim, Shoaib and Razzaq are going to be the pick of pace bowling for Pakistan and they can all change the game. And then they can choose a fourth bowler who can open with Wasim because Shoaib is best as a first change bowler 8D

 

[Gotchya]

Talking of Wasim - I will yet again say that Pakistan should not play all 3 of Shoaib, Waqar and Wasim, and I would personally get rid of Wasim - he's past it in my opinion.

I am skeptic about this, because i have heard this about wasim so many times before, in his career and he's always disappointed his discreditors. For Pakistans sake he must have a good World cup. There is no wisdom in not playing all three of them, what do you base that on ??? why not play the threee of them, together they still are a big threat to batting line ups.

 

[marc71178]

I don't think you get enough variety in an attack that contains 3 pace bowlers - I'd rather go for someone with a bit less pace, who also makes the big hits harder to make.

 

[Gotchya]

I don't think you get enough variety in an attack that contains 3 pace bowlers - I'd rather go for someone with a bit less pace, who also makes the big hits harder to make.

But when the attack is running through line ups who needs variety ?

for the lesser pace bowler, well that would be fine if you were talking about slow, low and unresponsive tracks, its South Africa we're talking about.

 

[royGilchrist]

India won their only world cup in england, and Pak theirs in Aus, both conditions vastly different than subC. So this thing about Indians and Paks not getting adjusted to conditions is not an accurate comment.

One thing that I thing is definetely going to happen, is there wont be ver high scoring games, like happens often in subC, and this might effect SL, who seem to do better n big scoring games (I might be wrong on this one, just an impression).

Finally, its only a ODI tournament and anything can happen, whoever peaks at the right moment will win the cup. If i were a betting person I would put my money on the under doigs, like NZ, becasue in my opinion its like a rapshoot anywyas so why not put money on the team with worse odds.

 

[Gotchya]

Yes that has been the pattern over the years, as a tour goes on, teams from the sub-continent get more used to the higher bounce and pace they perform better. I hope that we have good scoring games there in SA. Low scoring games only prove to be anti climax

 

[basil]

Originally posted by marc71178
I think the sub-continent sides will be the most adversely affected ones, as others have said.

Talking of Wasim - I will yet again say that Pakistan should not play all 3 of Shoaib, Waqar and Wasim, and I would personally get rid of Wasim - he's past it in my opinion. I don't think you get enough variety in an attack that contains 3 pace bowlers - I'd rather go for someone with a bit less pace, who also makes the big hits harder to make.

Waseem is still one of the best onedayers bowlers around, even in the past ten onedayers he fared much better with the ball than any Pakistan bowler (san Akhter)!!

I don't think you get enough variety in an attack that contains 3 pace bowlers - I'd rather go for someone with a bit less pace, who also makes the big hits harder to make.

Pak has three pacers, an offspinner and a useful leggie in Afridi! If variety is all one wants then India seems to be one that has it, they go in with two pacers, a specialits offbreak bowler and a specialist leggie!

 

[onemangang]

Originally posted by Eclipse
India Sri Lanka and Pakistan will have the most trouble adapting I would say mostly India but they should get over it after a few games.

Pakistan will be playing in Africa (SA and Zimb) for three months just before the World cup, i don't think adaptation can be a problem for them.

 

[onemangang]

Originally posted by royGilchrist

Murali for one would be ineffective

Murali can spin the ball on a bloody cemented pitch....you are wrong buddy about Murali being ineffective in SA.

11 wkts in 13 matches in SA and at a very high ave of 31+, thats what Murali's figures read, very ordinary indeed!

 

[The Argonaut]

It will affect the Indians the most based on their previous poor displays on bouncy pitches. The Pakistanis will make up for their potential shortfall in the batting department by bowling better than most other sides.

I will agree with one sentiment expressed earlier in that it is a one day tournament and anything can happen, even England might win it.

 

[marc71178]

11 wkts in 13 matches in SA and at a very high ave of 31+, thats what Murali's figures read, very ordinary indeed!

Expect Murali to take 30 wickets in the Tournament after that comment! That seems to be the case on every player we criticise on here!

And he's actually got 23 wickets in 16 matches at 27 - not quite so bad as you make out.

 

[Anil]

On the surface, it would appear to affect the subcontinent teams(Ind, Pak, SL) the most, although the Pak pace attack can compensate to a certain extent for any weakness shown by their batsmen.

I have a feeling though that this Indian team will adjust quickly and well to the changed conditions compared to previous teams.

 

[CricketGuru]

I believe that the countries with the biggest variety in the pace attack will have the most advantage in SA.

Pakistan has the most variety in their pace attack as Waqar, Wasim, Shoaib and Razzak are kind of bowlers who can use the SA pitches to their advantage very well.