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    Why is McGrath NOT an all-time great?

    Firstly, calm down SS, read the rest of the post - I'm not having a go at him.

    I'm considering promoting McGrath into my alltime XI, which I've only done for two other current players. Obviously at the moment, there's heaps of talk, and certainly some compelling performances to suggest that he deserves a spot over the myriad of other fantastic quicks who have played a game.

    I'd be interested to hear whether anyone can come up with sound criticisms of why he isn't an absolute all-time great? Kinda a devil's advocate thing when they put someone up for saint-hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79
    sound criticisms.
    This is the tough part. Who defines 'sound'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy
    This is the tough part. Who defines 'sound'?
    I'm not going to be shooting people down, I guess I just meant criticisms that have some basis beyond "I think he's a knob" kinda thing.

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    Can't really see any arguement against him being an all time great. He can do it anytime, anywhere, although for me

    Ambrose >> Mcgrath

    As far as the last 15/16 years or so.


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    Pretty much all I can come up with is a lack of absolute pace compared to other all-time greats. It certainly hasn't hurt him or his performances, but if the choice is between a deadly accurate bowler who gets it to move and consistently takes out the best batsmen in the opposing team, and one who does all of that, and bowls at near the 150kph mark, I guess you take the second guy.

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    Shaun Pollock is basicaly McGrath with batting average of 30 yet he isn't considered great.

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    He hasn't sustained his performance like McGrath has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79
    Pretty much all I can come up with is a lack of absolute pace compared to other all-time greats. It certainly hasn't hurt him or his performances, but if the choice is between a deadly accurate bowler who gets it to move and consistently takes out the best batsmen in the opposing team, and one who does all of that, and bowls at near the 150kph mark, I guess you take the second guy.
    Yes, but there has been no one who did that. No one in the history of the game has taken so many top order wickets.
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    Pathan > McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbinator
    Pathan > McGrath
    Rikki Clarke > Pathan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Rikki Clarke > Pathan.
    Imran Khan > Rikki Clark

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Rikki Clarke > Pathan.
    Sami > All your mortal bowlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTheOne
    Sami > All your mortal bowlers.
    Kabir Ali > Sami

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig
    Rikki Clarke & Kabir Ali >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody else.
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