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    Zimbabwe isn't a Test nation anymore.

    T20 world cup can't replace the champions trophy because the T20 world cup happens so bloody often.

    What this will be our 3rd T20 world cup? All AFTER the last ODI world cup. Jeeeeez
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    I thought they were still a Test nation, only one that had been temporarily suspended - which is a joke.

    By saying the T20 WC replaces the CT, I mean that it takes place once every four years (is that how often the CT happens - I've somehow failed to care enough to keep track). WC 2011, T20 2013, WC 2015, T20 2017 etc.

    If it happened once every four years, the individual tournaments would actually mean something, rather than being a blur that no-one can actually keep track of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA ICE-E View Post
    Cricket is one of the best sports played in the world. It has various forms of the game but three of them are recognized by the ICC- Test cricket, One-day International cricket and last but not least Twenty20 International Cricket. Since the ICC don't want Twenty20 to take over ODI's but still be formal, the ICC should:
    *Put a Twenty20 raking system into affect for it.
    *The mandatory minimum requirements of at least 1 Twenty20 International,home and away, against every other Full Member over a period, while still would schedule rest periods for their players.
    *It should have a limit of 10 Twenty20 Internationals (instead of the confusing 3 home Twenty20 matches/year), just like 15 Tests and 30 One Day Internationals per calendar year per country averaged out through the 6 FTP year plan.
    *Associate teams right now works hard to get ODI status then eventually Test status, what if ICC created Twenty20 status. This form of the game can be played competitively between any sides, be it a full member vs a associate. ICC should give Twenty20 status out to a broader number of nations who could compete in the Twenty20 level then try to gain ODI status then eventually test status!
    *The second Twenty20 World Championship should be a knockout tournament(the form being fast pacing so should it's tournament) consisting 32 teams making cricket really a global sport; ten full members and the top 22 associates from the ranking systems. Even though this tournament would have more teams, it would not have more value than the World Cup, first of all because the World Cup is the most pure tournament with the best teams(currently 16) playing the more pure form of the sport ever to be played in a tournament for more than 30 years. Secondly, while the world cup is played every four years, which is like sacred, the Twenty20 World Championship would be played every 2 years making it the junior tournament. Twenty20 is a junior compared to it's older brothers ODI's and Tests so it's tournament would also be a junior to the world cup; sort of like a mini world cup for the mini form of ODI. But the ICC still needs to take advantage of what they can, which is more teams can participate competitively in it. So the knockout tournament with 32 teams would have 29 matches played in 15-18 days and have its own values that would make it different from the world cup.


    Example:
    Knockout Stages
    1st Round 2nd Round Quarter-finals Semi-final Final
    [Day 1-8] [Day 9-12] [Day 13-14] [Day 15-16] [Day 18]

    1.Australia vs 32. Gibraltar
    vs
    16.UAE vs 17. Denmark

    VS

    8.England vs 25. Afghanistan
    vs
    9.Bangladesh vs 24. Cayman Islands

    VS

    5.India vs 28. Papua New Guinea
    vs
    12.Ireland vs 21. USA

    VS

    4.Pakistan vs 29. Tanzania
    vs
    13.Scotland vs 20. Hong Kong

    VS

    3.New Zealand vs 30. Nepal
    vs
    14.Bermuda vs 19. Canada

    VS

    6.Sri Lanka vs 27. Uganda
    vs
    11.Kenya vs 22. Italy

    VS

    7.West Indies vs 26. Jersey
    vs
    10.Zimbabwe vs 23. Norway

    VS

    2.South Africa vs 31. Germany
    vs
    15.Netherlands vs 18. Namibia




    The ICC needs money for their Development Program to spread the sport. But the only events they get the financial help is from the ICC Cricket World cup and ICC Champions Trophy. Unfortunately, the Champions Trophy is not really helping cricket and does not have any value because it's very similar and only four months away from the biggest thing in cricket- the world Cup. But the ICC needs the money, luckily they have another tournament to replace it- ICC Twenty20 World Championship. From 2012 the ICC Twenty20 Championship should be played every 2 years. The winner of the tournament would be referred as the World Twenty20 Champions and world Champions would be the winners of the world cup as it is now. The ICC cricket world cup should be going forward as it is now because there really isn't any flaws with it. The tournament is expending as more teams have the quality play in it but there should be a limit at one point where it wont expand anymore; the current tournament is being played by 16 teams in 51 matches which takes 47 days, if it expands too much with too many teams it would take too long.

    These should be only two ICC Events played at the highest international men level:
    2007 -World Cup & Twenty20 Championship
    2008 -
    2009 -Twenty20 Championship
    2010 -
    2011 -World Cup
    2012 -Twenty20 Championship
    2013 -
    2014 -Twenty20 Championship
    2015 -World Cup
    2016 -Twenty20 Championship
    2017 -
    2018 -Twenty20 Championship
    2019 -World Cup
    2020 -Twenty20 Championship
    2021 -
    2022 -Twenty20 Championship
    2023 -World Cup
    2024 -Twenty20 Championship
    2025 -
    2026 -Twenty20 Championship
    2027 -World Cup
    2028 -Twenty20 Championship
    2029 -
    2030 -Twenty20 Championship
    2031 -World Cup
    2032 -Twenty20 Championship
    2033 -
    2034 -Twenty20 Championship
    2035 -World Cup
    2036 -Twenty20 Championship
    2037 -
    2038 -Twenty20 Championship
    2039 -World Cup
    2040 -Twenty20 Championship



    Though Test cricket is too long for a tournament, the ICC has done a good job with LG ICC Test Championship. But don't you think crowning best test cricket team deserves same amount of value as handing over the world cup. Well here's another idea why not hold the crowning the of best test team every four years from 2013 then again in 2017 and so on (the blank years above). The team that was the number 1 team the most, meaning for the longest time combined in the last four years would win the Trophy for the LG ICC Test Championship. Crowning the best team in the world would be held at the ICC Awards every four years with the best team crowned and refereed as the Champions Champion.

    The more you have something the less value it gets so please, for the sake of all forms of the sport don't overplay it and reduce it's value. Even playing all three forms half of their limit would be enough to please the crowd. Nothing would really affect cricket in a negative way in these changes- Champions trophy, which is in decaying position would be replaced with the exciting Twenty20 championship, more nations would play cricket, more value to the best test team and the world cup would still be the most valued tournament in cricket. Cricket truly is one of the best and global sports of the world. In most of the world the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd's are awarded, well it would be the same in cricket- 1st. LG ICC Test Championship winners, the champions champion; 2nd. ICC World Cup winners, the world champions; 3rd. ICC Twenty20 World Championship winners, the World Twenty20 Champions! The ICC Cricket World Cup will always be the top event played and Twenty20 will help it spread the game!
    I must say great efforts put in by you. I totally agree with you on all your points. I totally appreciate your point that 20-20 is the vehicle to drive cricket into other countries. Most of the people here seem to be happy with present structure and greatly resist bringing other teams into mainfold. In that way the no of countries where cricket remains popular may just keep on decreasing. Today Zimbabwe went out tome it may be some other. Cricket may end up like American Football with IPL being the only meaningful tournament
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    Of course my thread wasn't as funny as the nonsense in this thread, but at least it was attempting to raise money for charity.
    Great.....atleast have an open mind on ideas. Anyways in the present structure we have been only able to manage just 10 Test Nations after playing test cricket for over 130 years. About 100 years were lost coz ICC was Imperial CC and not International. Even Rugby Union has more teams and the reason is a bigger WC (Last time they had 20 teams in WC even though qualifying teams were around 90, in cricket with over 110 teams we have only 14 slots). Football also similarly allows much higher no of teams and there are visible differences (Rem the 7-0 loss of N Korea this time, 8-0 loss of Saudi's in 2000 WC i guess).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jashan83 View Post
    I must say great efforts put in by you. I totally agree with you on all your points. I totally appreciate your point that 20-20 is the vehicle to drive cricket into other countries. Most of the people here seem to be happy with present structure and greatly resist bringing other teams into mainfold. In that way the no of countries where cricket remains popular may just keep on decreasing. Today Zimbabwe went out tome it may be some other. Cricket may end up like American Football with IPL being the only meaningful tournament
    NFL was created to keep the sport in the US, Americans could care less if the game spreads to other countries. Also NFL is extremely profitable their last known revenue (not income but profits) was $6 billion in 2006. Currently there are 19 NFL franchise worth at least $1 billion, so you can't compared IPL and NFL since these two have different history with NFL primarily an American sport and part of its culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA ICE-E View Post
    Cricket is one of the best sports played in the world. It has various forms of the game but three of them are recognized by the ICC- Test cricket, One-day International cricket and last but not least Twenty20 International Cricket. Since the ICC don't want Twenty20 to take over ODI's but still be formal, the ICC should:
    *Put a Twenty20 raking system into affect for it.
    *The mandatory minimum requirements of at least 1 Twenty20 International,home and away, against every other Full Member over a period, while still would schedule rest periods for their players.
    *It should have a limit of 10 Twenty20 Internationals (instead of the confusing 3 home Twenty20 matches/year), just like 15 Tests and 30 One Day Internationals per calendar year per country averaged out through the 6 FTP year plan.
    *Associate teams right now works hard to get ODI status then eventually Test status, what if ICC created Twenty20 status. This form of the game can be played competitively between any sides, be it a full member vs a associate. ICC should give Twenty20 status out to a broader number of nations who could compete in the Twenty20 level then try to gain ODI status then eventually test status!
    *The second Twenty20 World Championship should be a knockout tournament(the form being fast pacing so should it's tournament) consisting 32 teams making cricket really a global sport; ten full members and the top 22 associates from the ranking systems. Even though this tournament would have more teams, it would not have more value than the World Cup, first of all because the World Cup is the most pure tournament with the best teams(currently 16) playing the more pure form of the sport ever to be played in a tournament for more than 30 years. Secondly, while the world cup is played every four years, which is like sacred, the Twenty20 World Championship would be played every 2 years making it the junior tournament. Twenty20 is a junior compared to it's older brothers ODI's and Tests so it's tournament would also be a junior to the world cup; sort of like a mini world cup for the mini form of ODI. But the ICC still needs to take advantage of what they can, which is more teams can participate competitively in it. So the knockout tournament with 32 teams would have 29 matches played in 15-18 days and have its own values that would make it different from the world cup.


    Example:
    Knockout Stages
    1st Round 2nd Round Quarter-finals Semi-final Final
    [Day 1-8] [Day 9-12] [Day 13-14] [Day 15-16] [Day 18]

    1.Australia vs 32. Gibraltar
    vs
    16.UAE vs 17. Denmark

    VS

    8.England vs 25. Afghanistan
    vs
    9.Bangladesh vs 24. Cayman Islands

    VS

    5.India vs 28. Papua New Guinea
    vs
    12.Ireland vs 21. USA

    VS

    4.Pakistan vs 29. Tanzania
    vs
    13.Scotland vs 20. Hong Kong

    VS

    3.New Zealand vs 30. Nepal
    vs
    14.Bermuda vs 19. Canada

    VS

    6.Sri Lanka vs 27. Uganda
    vs
    11.Kenya vs 22. Italy

    VS

    7.West Indies vs 26. Jersey
    vs
    10.Zimbabwe vs 23. Norway

    VS

    2.South Africa vs 31. Germany
    vs
    15.Netherlands vs 18. Namibia




    The ICC needs money for their Development Program to spread the sport. But the only events they get the financial help is from the ICC Cricket World cup and ICC Champions Trophy. Unfortunately, the Champions Trophy is not really helping cricket and does not have any value because it's very similar and only four months away from the biggest thing in cricket- the world Cup. But the ICC needs the money, luckily they have another tournament to replace it- ICC Twenty20 World Championship. From 2012 the ICC Twenty20 Championship should be played every 2 years. The winner of the tournament would be referred as the World Twenty20 Champions and world Champions would be the winners of the world cup as it is now. The ICC cricket world cup should be going forward as it is now because there really isn't any flaws with it. The tournament is expending as more teams have the quality play in it but there should be a limit at one point where it wont expand anymore; the current tournament is being played by 16 teams in 51 matches which takes 47 days, if it expands too much with too many teams it would take too long.

    These should be only two ICC Events played at the highest international men level:
    2007 -World Cup & Twenty20 Championship
    2008 -
    2009 -Twenty20 Championship
    2010 -
    2011 -World Cup
    2012 -Twenty20 Championship
    2013 -
    2014 -Twenty20 Championship
    2015 -World Cup
    2016 -Twenty20 Championship
    2017 -
    2018 -Twenty20 Championship
    2019 -World Cup
    2020 -Twenty20 Championship
    2021 -
    2022 -Twenty20 Championship
    2023 -World Cup
    2024 -Twenty20 Championship
    2025 -
    2026 -Twenty20 Championship
    2027 -World Cup
    2028 -Twenty20 Championship
    2029 -
    2030 -Twenty20 Championship
    2031 -World Cup
    2032 -Twenty20 Championship
    2033 -
    2034 -Twenty20 Championship
    2035 -World Cup
    2036 -Twenty20 Championship
    2037 -
    2038 -Twenty20 Championship
    2039 -World Cup
    2040 -Twenty20 Championship



    Though Test cricket is too long for a tournament, the ICC has done a good job with LG ICC Test Championship. But don't you think crowning best test cricket team deserves same amount of value as handing over the world cup. Well here's another idea why not hold the crowning the of best test team every four years from 2013 then again in 2017 and so on (the blank years above). The team that was the number 1 team the most, meaning for the longest time combined in the last four years would win the Trophy for the LG ICC Test Championship. Crowning the best team in the world would be held at the ICC Awards every four years with the best team crowned and refereed as the Champions Champion.

    The more you have something the less value it gets so please, for the sake of all forms of the sport don't overplay it and reduce it's value. Even playing all three forms half of their limit would be enough to please the crowd. Nothing would really affect cricket in a negative way in these changes- Champions trophy, which is in decaying position would be replaced with the exciting Twenty20 championship, more nations would play cricket, more value to the best test team and the world cup would still be the most valued tournament in cricket. Cricket truly is one of the best and global sports of the world. In most of the world the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd's are awarded, well it would be the same in cricket- 1st. LG ICC Test Championship winners, the champions champion; 2nd. ICC World Cup winners, the world champions; 3rd. ICC Twenty20 World Championship winners, the World Twenty20 Champions! The ICC Cricket World Cup will always be the top event played and Twenty20 will help it spread the game!
    Excellent article mate. bravo. Great hardwork put in it. I have actually lived in 3 countries
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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric View Post
    Some of those matchups are absolute gems.

    Australia vs Finland (they'd just get raped, straight up)
    England vs Nepal (now there's someone England could beat in limited-overs cricket )
    Pakistan vs Italy (imagine the Italians sledging Inzy)
    Sri Lanka vs Cayman Islands (battle of the islands, I reckon no one would watch)
    South Africa vs Cyprus (best one of them all, Cyprus plays cricket?)
    Just one tournament in 4 years. The test teams should take out atleast a week in 4 years for such tournament. After the first round they get to play good sides only. Have a positive outlook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    I started a thread yesterday about Dave Mohammad and pledged a fiver to Children In Need for every reply before the thread was locked. I knew the lack of humour on here meant it wouldn't cost me much, but we've had such a laugh at those fixtures that we've passed the hat around and raised another £70.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    And? Its irrelevant, they have to prove a challenge consistently. Not saying they have to win all the time, but the full member countries have to be challenged. And no, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, though officially full member countries, really aren't.
    Once a test status is given we shud respect it. ICC gave test status after really gagging on all issues for a long time
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    The problem remains the same, a match up like England v Nepal would not pull any crowds what so ever. As long as there is no quality cricket i don't think crowds come in to watch...

    For any format, a good pitch with a first choice quality teams playing is the fundamental problem that all formats face right now. Even in T20, a low scoring game on a pitch where the ball is dancing around too much is not pleasing to watch.

    I don't think any of the suggestions above will improve or solve this basic problem.

    I think ICC needs to put in some measures where countries are penalized for making bad pitches...or any sub par standards...thats the real issue as far as i see it...the rest is all gravy you can put in the stats system for T20, increase the number of teams in WC, make it knockout etc etc....but if the problem of quality pitches and good cricketers is not solved, nothing is solved.
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    May be all the teams should play a WC qualifier round...

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    Quote Originally Posted by quytst0rm View Post
    NFL was created to keep the sport in the US, Americans could care less if the game spreads to other countries. Also NFL is extremely profitable their last known revenue (not income but profits) was $6 billion in 2006. Currently there are 19 NFL franchise worth at least $1 billion, so you can't compared IPL and NFL since these two have different history with NFL primarily an American sport and part of its culture.
    Presently no. But over time if the same attitude of ICC continues, then surely it can. See the state of NZ. Zim had a downfall. Same with West Indies. Pak are going through hard times. So now Indians enjoy series against Aus, Eng, SA. Now in another nations falls, then Indian fans would be bored to see series against AUs and ENg and other would be of no use. So what options will BCCI have. Have 20 IPL teams and have matches through out the year.
    Presently India is a growing economy. The teams each of them are evaluated around 200 M $ each. Over 10 years with economy growing the evaluation will also increase.
    IPL has the threat to replace the world cricket order
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    According to Swann, we should scrap ODI's.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cri...-scrapped.html

    I understand where he is coming from because one format has to go and it can't be Test (obvious reason) or T20I's because it makes the most money and is exciting (despite what most people here think).

    However it does sound like sour grapes coming from Swann.

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