Not really. One-day cricket demands that you rotate the strike efficiently and stroke boundaries regularly. Test cricket demands a certain temperament and the ability to grind it out somewhat. While most good batsmen should be adept in both formats, they are not identical. Also, some players don't do well for reasons that are difficult to explain. You don't keep playing them because they "should be doing well"; you give the chance to someone who "should be doing well" and actually "is doing well".silentstriker said:I'm of the opinion that, for the most part, those who play Tests should also play ODI's.
I don't buy this 'ODI Specialist' player crap. Very few (Bevan is an exception) people do fantastic in ODI's but badly in tests (and vice versa). Your test team are your most elite players, and they should be the ones playing.
There's so much wrong with that its ridiculous. So I guess Vaughan deserves to be in England's ODI team hey? Ajay Jadeja, one of India's best ODI players in the 90s should have played test cricket? Robin Singh too? What about Matthew Hoggard, should he be playing ODI cricket for England?silentstriker said:I'm of the opinion that, for the most part, those who play Tests should also play ODI's.
I don't buy this 'ODI Specialist' player crap. Very few (Bevan is an exception) people do fantastic in ODI's but badly in tests (and vice versa). Your test team are your most elite players, and they should be the ones playing.
I don't see how you think Gambhir doesnt look like a good prospect for ODI openers looking at his recent domestic form.Mr Mxyzptlk said:Wasim Jaffer has done enough to book a run in the Indian team. If the likes of Yuvraj Singh get persisted with in Tests, then surely Jaffer should too.
In his last 7 Tests, Jaffer has played 13 innings with 0 not outs and averages 47.84 Take out his highest score in that period (212) and he averages 34.16.
In his last 7 Tests, Sehwag has played 13 innings with 1 not out and averages 37.66. Take out his highest score in that period (180) and he averages 24.72.
So basically, Jaffer has outperformed India's "number one" opener. So unless it's an argument for Jaffer and Gambhir to open and Sehwag to slip into the middle order, I think Jaffer definitely deserves the go. Gambhir averages 27.63 in his last 7 Tests. He has 3 big scores in Tests to date - 96 v SA, 139 v Ban and 97 v Zim.
In ODIs it's a different story. None of Gambhir, Jaffer or Sehwag look particularly enterprising prospects as ODI openers.
I haven't been following Indian cricket closely of late, but I remember he scored a ton and a half-century for India Red (?). What kind of form has he been in lately aside from that? <--- Genuine question. Because his career average certainly doesn't reflect anything spectacular.Dravid said:I don't see how you think Gambhir doesnt look like a good prospect for ODI openers looking at his recent domestic form.
He scored 70 and 84 against Central,Mr Mxyzptlk said:I haven't been following Indian cricket closely of late, but I remember he scored a ton and a half-century for India Red (?). What kind of form has he been in lately aside from that? <--- Genuine question. Because his career average certainly doesn't reflect anything spectacular.
Don't think the topic starter was talking about test matches.... Jaffer would be easily ahead of gambhir in test for now at least.Mr Mxyzptlk said:Wasim Jaffer has done enough to book a run in the Indian team. If the likes of Yuvraj Singh get persisted with in Tests, then surely Jaffer should too.
In his last 7 Tests, Jaffer has played 13 innings with 0 not outs and averages 47.84 Take out his highest score in that period (212) and he averages 34.16.
In his last 7 Tests, Sehwag has played 13 innings with 1 not out and averages 37.66. Take out his highest score in that period (180) and he averages 24.72.
So basically, Jaffer has outperformed India's "number one" opener. So unless it's an argument for Jaffer and Gambhir to open and Sehwag to slip into the middle order, I think Jaffer definitely deserves the go. Gambhir averages 27.63 in his last 7 Tests. He has 3 big scores in Tests to date - 96 v SA, 139 v Ban and 97 v Zim.
In ODIs it's a different story. None of Gambhir, Jaffer or Sehwag look particularly enterprising prospects as ODI openers.
Oh, I was talking about OD form. FC form doesn't much relate to one-day internationals. Gambhir has long proven that he can hold the bat in an FC match.Dravid said:He scored 70 and 84 against Central,
Scored 86 against East Zone in the first and didn't bat in the second inning given they only needed 60 odd runs.
Scored 20 in first inning and 64* in the second inning for Rest of India
I know this. As evidenced by the end of my first post and subsequent posts...R_D said:Don't think the topic starter was talking about test matches.... Jaffer would be easily ahead of gambhir in test for now at least.
No OD domestic tournament has taken place so far besides the challenger trophy. Don't think you have a choice but to go on Four Day form. Unless you want to go on experience, which Gambhir still has more than Jaffer in ODIsMr Mxyzptlk said:Oh, I was talking about OD form. FC form doesn't much relate to one-day internationals. Gambhir has long proven that he can hold the bat in an FC match.
I don't think it's fair to replace Jaffer in the Test team though, so unless Sehwag gets removed from the opener's spot in Tests, Gambhir's only avenue should be in ODIs.
But Gambhir hasn't really had much success in ODIs or OD matches. Jaffer has been in form in Tests and has about as mediocre a record as Gambhir in OD cricket. As I said earlier, I wouldn't take either of them.Dravid said:No OD domestic tournament has taken place so far besides the challenger trophy. Don't think you have a choice but to go on Four Day form. Unless you want to go on experience, which Gambhir still has more than Jaffer in ODIs
Look at the number of OD games Jaffer as played and number of OD Gambhir has played. Gambhir is only a couple of runs behind Jaffer in his avg and he has played more than double the number of OD matches than Jaffer.Mr Mxyzptlk said:But Gambhir hasn't really had much success in ODIs or OD matches. Jaffer has been in form in Tests and has about as mediocre a record as Gambhir in OD cricket. As I said earlier, I wouldn't take either of them.