LOL! So true."If I were playing for England and the team sheet went up and Yardy was batting in front of me, there would be hell to pay. I wouldn't let it happen. How do you think it makes other batsmen in the team feel? What sort of message does that send out if a left-arm spinner who bats a bit goes in ahead of you?"
i think the comments on yardy are a tad foolish. Whilst Collingwood should be batting higher than he is at the moment i dont understand what the fuss is about Yardy batting up the order. Looking at his FC record hes averaging in the 50s in his last 2 seasons while batting at 3, so hes certainly better than being just a part time batsman/left arm spinner that hes being made out to be even if his list A record isnt very impressive.Jono said:Not going to happen so mute point, and whilst I'm not exactly a Boycott fan:
LOL! So true.
What is wrong about that? Fletcher needs to be go ASAP in ODIs IMO, the side at the moment is in absolute disarray and it is completely fletcher and the selectors fault. His strategy of picking players on FC performances and the constant selection of Mahmood, Plunkett and Harmison only emphasise how hes never been the right man for the ODI coach. Id much rather have someone like Adam Hollioake in charge of the ODI side. As far as tests are concerned, he shouldnt be given any more time after the Ashes IMO. We've already seen how his plan of sweeping spinners as much as possible has cost England in the subcontinent and by and large his other ideas which have been somewhat impressive in the past are now clearly starting to get a bit old.aussie said:when one gets old they tend to talk a lot of crap, this is a perfect example..
True, and it's starting to happen here, too. Still, he's better value than say, Thommo or Kim Hughes.nightprowler10 said:He's starting to sound like those ex-Pakistani cricketers who like to throw their worthless 2 cents in before the start of every major tour.
I agreetooextracool said:What is wrong about that? Fletcher needs to be go ASAP in ODIs IMO, the side at the moment is in absolute disarray and it is completely fletcher and the selectors fault. His strategy of picking players on FC performances and the constant selection of Mahmood, Plunkett and Harmison only emphasise how hes never been the right man for the ODI coach. Id much rather have someone like Adam Hollioake in charge of the ODI side. As far as tests are concerned, he shouldnt be given any more time after the Ashes IMO. We've already seen how his plan of sweeping spinners as much as possible has cost England in the subcontinent and by and large his other ideas which have been somewhat impressive in the past are now clearly starting to get a bit old.
tooextracool said:Looking at his FC record hes averaging in the 50s in his last 2 seasons while batting at 3, so hes certainly better than being just a part time batsman/left arm spinner that hes being made out to be even if his list A record isnt very impressive.
Never seen a man contradict himself within 6 minutes of his original statement.tooextracool said:His strategy of picking players on FC performances and the constant selection of Mahmood, Plunkett and Harmison only emphasise how hes never been the right man for the ODI coach.
You really need to read the context in which that statement was made. Anyone whos scoring centuries and averaging in the 50s in FC cricket deserves to be considered more than just a 'part time batsman' or 'bits and pieces' player that hes made out to be. He might not be a very good ODI player, but to say that he doesnt deserve a chance to bat up the order in ODIs is going too far.Jono said:Never seen a man contradict himself within 6 minutes of his original statement.
totally disagree yo, yes the coach should take some blame for defeats but the majority of England's woeful ODI performances since he has been incharge has been down to the lack of quality ODI players around. The selections of Mahmood, Plunkett & Harmison as you mentioned for example are not horrible selections, Harmison definately has the ability to be a good ODI bowler, if he can bowl like how he bowled @ Bristol last year he certainly would i can't explain why he has been so poor. Mahmood initially was very poor but its obvious he has great ability and i applaude Fletcher for sticking with him he certainly can be a good ODI bowler he has pace to get wickets & of recent has developed some variation in his bowling. Plunkett has been disappointing since his debut in Pakistan but he is young maybe he will come good.tooextracool said:What is wrong about that? Fletcher needs to be go ASAP in ODIs IMO, the side at the moment is in absolute disarray and it is completely fletcher and the selectors fault. His strategy of picking players on FC performances and the constant selection of Mahmood, Plunkett and Harmison only emphasise how hes never been the right man for the ODI coach. Id much rather have someone like Adam Hollioake in charge of the ODI side. As far as tests are concerned, he shouldnt be given any more time after the Ashes IMO. We've already seen how his plan of sweeping spinners as much as possible has cost England in the subcontinent and by and large his other ideas which have been somewhat impressive in the past are now clearly starting to get a bit old.