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ICC Awards

adharcric

International Coach
JASON said:
Murali again snubbed by the ICC awards . This despite Ranatunga being part of the selection panel (and most of the Selection panel being Asians) !!

One wonders if Ranatunga sold Murali to get Mahela the Captain of the Year award !!
Ponting clearly deserved both the awards he won and the only competition Hussey had for his was Yuvraj.
Before you get too excited, I'm not a biased Aussie.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Jason, to even try and suggest Murali clearly had a better year than Ponting, who was a machine, is stupid.

England won spirit of the year based on winning the Ashes I guess.

Bracken and Ntini are both stiff not to make the ODI team, Dhoni opening is odd :unsure: as is Dravid getting captain of the test team since India haven't done much in tests bar the series win over WI and an obvious home series win to SL. Probably should have gone to Ponting, but then there is that Ashes lost. *shrugs*
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
FaaipDeOiad said:
Nice to see Lee getting 12th man for the test side. Very much deserved.
He is probably the best carrier of the drinks in the history of cricket. Technique was flawless throughout 2004.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Jono said:
Jason, to even try and suggest Murali clearly had a better year than Ponting, who was a machine, is stupid.
Ponting (in the ICC Award Period year 1/8/05 to 8/8/06 ) 16 Tests 1691 runs

Has been bettered before in Test Cricket by a Country Mile in only 11 Tests,

Viv Richards 1976 11 Tests 1710 Runs

Muralitharan Same ICC award Year 1/8/05 to 8/8/06 108 wickets in 15 Tests

Never been done before in any calendar year in Test Cricket History !!

Best before Shane Warne 2005 15 Tests 96 wickets !!

So how is it Stupid then to argue that a bowler who has done something unprecedented in a calendar year should have got an award , than a batsman whose achievement is definitely not unprecednted and has been in fact bettered by a country mile in the past .
I would choose words carefully if I were you .
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Jono said:
Dhoni opening is odd :unsure: as is Dravid getting captain of the test team since India haven't done much in tests bar the series win over WI and an obvious home series win to SL. Probably should have gone to Ponting, but then there is that Ashes lost. *shrugs*
Yea i dont know what on earth Andrew Flintoff is doing in the ODI side, hes had a mediocre year by anyones standards, certainly Gayle has been doing far better than him with both ball and bat. I would have pushed dhoni down the order and have Gayle open.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Perm said:
Whats the deal with selecting Dhoni as an ODI opener when you already have Gilchrist? Surely that's a bit harsh on the likes of Gayle and Jayasuriya.
I'd say the Hussey Test opener is an even more bizarre pick - at least Dhoni has opened in ODIs!
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
JASON said:
Muralitharan Same ICC award Year 1/8/05 to 8/8/06 108 wickets in 15 Tests

Never been done before in any calendar year in Test Cricket History !!
The 4 games vs Bangladesh didn't help then did they?
 

Great Birtannia

U19 Captain
marc71178 said:
I'd say the Hussey Test opener is an even more bizarre pick - at least Dhoni has opened in ODIs!
Hussey opened in the series against the West Indies in Langer's absence, the dead rubber against South Africa at the Wanderers after Langer was clocked in the first dig and also the first test against Bangladesh.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
JASON said:
So how is it Stupid then to argue that a bowler who has done something unprecedented in a calendar year should have got an award , than a batsman whose achievement is definitely not unprecednted and has been in fact bettered by a country mile in the past .
I would choose words carefully if I were you .
It's not stupid to argue that , but making assumptions about Arjuna is.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Hussey did open against the West Indies and South Africa, but I also found it a bit weird how they included him as an opener when he has played the majority at 5.

Muralitharan took 28 wickets against Bangladesh and Ponting scored 191 runs against Bangladesh. I'm too lazy to work out how that affects their averages but if we take out the tests against Bangladesh we end up with this.

Ricky Ponting
1500 runs in 14 Tests.

Muttiah Muralitharan
80 wickets in 11 Tests
 

oz_fan

International Regular
The ODI team seems strange. Gayle definately deserved to be there somewhere and Pollock should have been in for Pathan considering his been the ICC's number one ODI bowler for the majority of the year.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
JASON said:
Muralitharan Same ICC award Year 1/8/05 to 8/8/06 108 wickets in 15 Tests

Never been done before in any calendar year in Test Cricket History !!

Best before Shane Warne 2005 15 Tests 96 wickets !!
Actually, Murali's 108 wickets didn't come in a calender year, as you can see from the dates you gave. They came in a 12 month period, which is different. Warne also took 108 wickets between March '05 and March '06 for instance. I'm sure there's plenty of similar examples if you take a well placed year for other bowlers.

Anyway, I think the fact that Murali played a handful of those tests against weak nations and Ponting scored several centuries in quite difficult batting conditions counted in his favour.
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
Well done to all the recipients - no howlers that I can see. Thought Ponting certainly deserved the two major awards as a "player", and can consider himself lucky to have been nominated as a "captain".

The one day team did seem odd with no Gayle, no Clarke, and Dhoni in as a specialist bat!
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
I'd say the Hussey Test opener is an even more bizarre pick - at least Dhoni has opened in ODIs!
As others have said, Hussey has opened in tests. Actually, he's opened in nearly 40% of his innings in test cricket. His average opening is 57.83 as compared to 91.75 at 5 and 58 at 6.
 

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