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Makhaya Ntini

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Ntini IMO is in the same bracket as the Walshes
no way, not even close, hes damn good, plenty of heart and fire, very good bowler, but to say hes as good as walsh simply isnt true.
 

Beleg

International Regular
of course Ntini is better then Flintoff.

Flintoff's bowling is slightly overrated.

Asif is a rookie. Lee is inconsistent. The Indian bowlers are nothing home to write about. Harmison and Hoggard are sound workhorses, while Vaas and Pollock have gotten older and blunter. Steyn, Nel, Malinga and a couple of west indians are good mid-level bowlers.
 
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silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
C_C said:
Ntini IMO is in the same bracket as the Walshes,Gillespies,etc. of the world- a fine bowler who'd have done a lot better if he had a great one beside him for most of his career.
Wait, I missed that too. By Walsh, did you mean Courtney Walsh? The guy with 500+ wickets, who was one of the best bowlers of all time? The guy that bowled for 18 years? Thats such a ridiculous comparison, that its not even funny.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Love Ntini, top bloke as well.

SS how can you say Lee is better than Ntini already?
 

shortpitched713

International Captain
sledger said:
.tbh i dont really see how you can conclusively justify such a claim.
In fast bowling he has been consistently better than Flintoff over the years, and especially in Flintoff's early career. I think you could still make the argument that Ntini is better, but both of their form over the last year has been excellent and doesn't leave much to choose from.

Of late though Flintoff probably suffers because he is part of a quite good pace attack and often has to share wickets with Hoggard, Harmison, and others whereas Ntini hasn't had much competition from too many of his teammates of late.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
There certainly is a lot of rubbish spewed in this thread. Ntini maybe SA's best fast bowler but but to put him down on par with Walsh, Gillespie and Flintoff when he averages 38 away from home and has been absolute tripe in every series away from home bar none until the WI series is quite frankly ridiculous. Decent bowler on wickets that offer seam movement or uneven bounce, but on a flat track or when the ball is swinging hes nothing more than an accurate version of steve Harmison(although he does use the crease a lot better). While on the subject of comparing him with harmison, it took him about 5 years to realise that the length he was bowling away from home was far too short.
 

Craig

World Traveller
silentstriker said:
Wait, I missed that too. By Walsh, did you mean Courtney Walsh? The guy with 500+ wickets, who was one of the best bowlers of all time? The guy that bowled for 18 years? Thats such a ridiculous comparison, that its not even funny.
The 'great one' had me stumped as well.

His partner in crime was Curtly Ambrose, he had the likes of Holding, Marshall, Garner with him as well when he started.

And Gillespie as had McGrath.

:blink:
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
its a great quote isn't it - Gillespie would also have bowled a lot of overs when a guy named warne was on at the other end!


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Have to say Ntini is one of the best fast bowlers in the world and is a very good bowler. However he is no whare near the class of some of the great fast bowlers of the 90's. The fact he is one of the very best bowlers in the world shows the lack of truely brilliant fast bowlers in world cricket.
 

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