Most Underated from 95 - 06?

[Jono]

Chanderpaul immediately comes to mind.

 

[Salamuddin]

Most underrated players

Saeed Anwar
Mohammad Yousuf
Danish Kaneria
Kamran Akmal
VVS Laxman
Matthew Hayden
Simon Jones
Shivnarayan Chander Pal
Shane Bond
Chis Schofield

and....
Neil Pickup
Richard Dickinson

 

[James90]

Most underrated players

Saeed Anwar - possibly but his greatness was well documented
Mohammad Yousuf - everyone knows he's a genius...maybe unfortunate to not be mentioned in the same breath as Dravid and co sometimes
Danish Kaneria - fairly rated IMO
Kamran Akmal - Certainly not...everyone's accepted he's going to be Pakistan's keeper for a while but he's really not THAT great...overrated IMO
VVS Laxman - By selectors maybe...his class is understood but he's been his own villain a lot of the time
Matthew Hayden - Huge purple patch...an abundance of luck contributed. Fine batsman all the same and picked in some all-time sides, was #1 in the world for ages...possibly overrated
Simon Jones - The guy's a gun no doubt about it, shame about injuries he deserves a bigger wrap.
Shivnarayan Chander Pal - ?
Shane Bond - What can you do when the guy constantly gets injured. It's not a media perception that he's not the best in the world because he certainly could have been. Those who've seen some of his one day heroics rate him
Chris Schofield - Brought it upon himself really...could have had much more. People still talk about him as if he had Downs Syndrome so he's underrated in that regard.

 

[James90]

Mohammad Rafique.

 

[Pratters]

Yea i remember at the time he was playing for Pakistan many people wished he gets out cheaply and in doing so looses his place in the team. People just hated Ijaz for some reason, looking back one has to admit Ijaz was a decent player who was massivley undervalued by his own country supporters.

He wasn't glamorous or an extrovert. The subcontinent looks at the flashy players much more. Though the style of plays of Ijaz Ahmed and Dravid are completely different of course, Dravid is a similar in other aspects like extrovert nature etc. I remember how Dravid was despised so much early on and test crowds even booed him. That the masses started appreciating shows Dravid's level of greatness.

 

[haroon510]

abdur razaq, azar mahmood, saqlin mushtaq from pakistani side
vetori from new zeland
yovraj singh from india
niky boje from south africa
ramnarsh sarwan from west indies
ashly giles from england
nathan braken from aus

 

[James]

James Franklin, a better Test strike rate with the ball than Sir Richard Hadlee and pretty handy with the bat too.

 

[Craig]

Mohammad Rafique.

Would agree.

 

[Craig]

Lets see:

- Chanderpaul
- Reifell
- Trescothick
- Ijaz Ahmed
- Astle
- Jacobs
- Boucher
- Giles
- MacGill
- Lehmann

Perhaps in the 90's and earlier this century, but not now IMO. If anything he could be over-rated?

 

[thedarkmullet]

Lets see:

- Chanderpaul
- Reifell
- Trescothick
- Ijaz Ahmed
- Astle
- Jacobs
- Boucher
- Giles
- MacGill
- Lehmann

I don't know if MacGill is massivly underated. I think people accept that without Warne as a contempory he would have gone on to achieve great things for Austrailia and that he would almost be an automatic selection in every other test side. Perhaps its a matter of Warne being over-rated?

 

[Xuhaib]

He wasn't glamorous or an extrovert. The subcontinent looks at the flashy players much more. Though the style of plays of Ijaz Ahmed and Dravid are completely different of course, Dravid is a similar in other aspects like extrovert nature etc. I remember how Dravid was despised so much early on and test crowds even booed him. That the masses started appreciating shows Dravid's level of greatness.

He was genuinley hated by the masses, even if he use to score runs people would come out with statements like " Ijaz confirms his place for the next 10 games".

I agree sub-cont fans like thrilling players but Ijaz was no Marc Richardson remeber his knock against India at Lahore, his record against India and Aus was fairly good so again he was not seen as a weak team bully was a brilliant feilder as well all i can think of is his ugly stance which might have put off people.

 

[open365]

Did someone say Chris Schofield was under-rated? Or did pigs just fly??

Let's face it, he's probably the worst Test international that england have ever picked.

 

[steds]

Did someone say Chris Schofield was under-rated? Or did pigs just fly??

Let's face it, he's probably the worst Test international that england have ever picked.

No he isn't. He's not even close to about half of England's Test debutants in the 90s.

 

[Jungle Jumbo]

Mohammad Rafique (as already stated): quite possibly the second best SLA bowler in the world for much of his career.
Murali Kartik
VVS Laxman
Kumara Dharmasena

 

[marc71178]

Let's face it, he's probably the worst Test international that england have ever picked.

Not even the worst leg spinner.

Ian Salisbury.

 

[Goughy]

No he isn't. He's not even close to about half of England's Test debutants in the 90s.

544 CC Lewis England v New Zealand at Birmingham, 1990
545 JE Morris England v India at Lord's, 1990
546 NF Williams England v India at The Oval, 1990
547 PCR Tufnell Australia v England at Melbourne, 1990/91
548 GA Hick England v West Indies at Leeds, 1991
549 MR Ramprakash England v West Indies at Leeds, 1991
550 SL Watkin England v West Indies at Leeds, 1991
551 RK Illingworth England v West Indies at Nottingham, 1991
552 H Morris England v West Indies at Birmingham, 1991
553 DA Reeve New Zealand v England at Christchurch, 1991/92
554 IDK Salisbury England v Pakistan at Lord's, 1992
555 TA Munton England v Pakistan at Manchester, 1992
556 NA Mallender England v Pakistan at Leeds, 1992
557 JP Taylor India v England at Kolkata, 1992/93
558 RJ Blakey India v England at Chennai, 1992/93
559 AR Caddick England v Australia at Manchester, 1993
560 PM Such England v Australia at Manchester, 1993
561 MC Ilott England v Australia at Nottingham, 1993
562 MN Lathwell England v Australia at Nottingham, 1993
563 MJ McCague England v Australia at Nottingham, 1993
564 GP Thorpe England v Australia at Nottingham, 1993
565 MP Bicknell England v Australia at Leeds, 1993
566 SJ Rhodes England v New Zealand at Nottingham, 1994
567 C White England v New Zealand at Nottingham, 1994
568 D Gough England v New Zealand at Manchester, 1994
569 JP Crawley England v South Africa at Lord's, 1994
570 JE Benjamin England v South Africa at The Oval, 1994
571 PJ Martin England v West Indies at Leeds, 1995
572 DG Cork England v West Indies at Lord's, 1995
573 JER Gallian England v West Indies at Birmingham, 1995
574 NV Knight England v West Indies at Manchester, 1995
575 M Watkinson England v West Indies at Manchester, 1995
576 AP Wells England v West Indies at The Oval, 1995
577 RC Irani England v India at Birmingham, 1996
578 AD Mullally England v India at Birmingham, 1996
579 MM Patel England v India at Birmingham, 1996
580 MA Ealham England v India at Nottingham, 1996
581 SJE Brown England v Pakistan at Lord's, 1996
582 RDB Croft England v Pakistan at The Oval, 1996
583 CEW Silverwood Zimbabwe v England at Bulawayo, 1996/97
584 MA Butcher England v Australia at Birmingham, 1997
585 DW Headley England v Australia at Manchester, 1997
586 AM Smith England v Australia at Leeds, 1997
587 AJ Hollioake England v Australia at Nottingham, 1997
588 BC Hollioake England v Australia at Nottingham, 1997
589 SP James England v South Africa at Lord's, 1998
590 AF Giles England v South Africa at Manchester, 1998
591 A Flintoff England v South Africa at Nottingham, 1998
592 AJ Tudor Australia v England at Perth, 1998/99
593 WK Hegg Australia v England at Melbourne, 1998/99
594 A Habib England v New Zealand at Birmingham, 1999
595 CMW Read England v New Zealand at Birmingham, 1999
596 ESH Giddins England v New Zealand at The Oval, 1999
597 DL Maddy England v New Zealand at The Oval, 1999
598 CJ Adams South Africa v England at Johannesburg, 1999/00
599 GM Hamilton South Africa v England at Johannesburg, 1999/00
600 MP Vaughan South Africa v England at Johannesburg, 1999/00

OK, which 50% is he better than?
Only ones close are Lathwell and maybe Paul Taylor and Neil Williams.

Guys like Min Patel, Richard Illingworth and Salisbury have had far more distinguished careers.

 

[marc71178]

Since when has 15 games, 20 wickets @ 76.95 been distinguished?

 

[Goughy]

Since when has 15 games, 20 wickets @ 76.95 been distinguished?

Its not, but 842 FC wickets is. As is a 17 year FC career.

Its also infinately better than never taking a Test wicket.

 

[Alysum]

Giles? hes OVERrated!

 

[sledger]

- Trescothick

what?!