Pedro Delgado
International Debutant
Not sure you need two ARs, and with all that batting I'd drop Faulkner or Procter and stick Fanie in there. But then I like Fanie.
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# 6 for 1986-2006 World Test XI
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Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
My SA AllTime XI - Only including players that played post-waroz_fan said:
1. Mitchell
2. B Richards
3. G Pollock
4. Kallis
5. Rice
6. Nourse
7. Lindsey
8. Procter
9. Donald
10. P Pollock
11. Tayfield
and a pretty good
2nd XI
1 Kirsten
2 Barlow
3 P Kirsten
4 Bland
5 Cook
6 Irvine
7 Cullinan
8 Boucher
9 De Villiers
10 Adcock
11 S Pollock
Both teams have good deep batting and very strong bowling (although lacking a wide choice of spinners)
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
A very strong XI tbh. Would love to see an Indian all-time XI.oz_fan said:
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
nightprowler10 said:
Look at Goughy's all time RSA side. It certainly isnt large. Like I said, we'd be one of the worst.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
aussie said:
Nah, I don't think so. 2004 was when a lot of our batsman were in doubt for the form, and we almost won another test there, if it wasn't for the rain. 2001 was better in terms of 'in form' teams on both sides. Remember, Aussies had won 16 in a row before then. And we didn't have a good pace attack at all then either. If we have a passable pace attack, and a good spin attack, plus our batsman being home-pitch bullies, it would be very hard indeed to lose a series.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
wouldn't pick Boucher as the keeper. The likes of Cameron, Lindsay & Waiteoz_fan said:
Shaun Pollock could be replaced by Neil Adcock was on South Africa fastest & best bowlers & unlike Donald played with few world class support & still managed an average of 21.
Barlow could be replaced by Bruce Mitchell, solid post war opener.
A possible ALL-TIME XI for me would be:
Mitchell
Richards
Pollock
Nourse
Kallis
Procter
Faulkner
Cameron
Tayfield
Donald
Adcock.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
In 2001 not only did India not have a good pace attack, they had rubbish spinners too other than Harbhajan who was really a one-man bowling team.silentstriker said:
Bahutule, Raju etc. added almost nothing. An Indian team with their best spinners of all time would run riot on Indian wickets.
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aussie
Hall of Fame Member
When i said 2004 i was totally talking about the Indian series also the Sri Lanka one. The only Indian batsman who was really out of form or short of match practice @ that time was Tendulkar, Dravid was in good form Australia just failed him, Sehwag batted well, Laxman was finally worked out by Australia & Ganguly well what can i say about him.silentstriker said:
They could have won in Chennai but based on how Australia had the Indian batsmen in check during that series & the amount of times in the past Australia haved defended such targets in the past i felt they would have won. But we'll never know.
But the point i'm trying to make the planning etc that Australia under-took going into theri sub-continent tours in 2004, if an All-time side could really challenge as well.
Fair point, but lets play pretend yo, lets say an Indian All-time XI for a test @ home was this:silentstriker said:
Gavaskar
Merchant
Dravid
Tendulkar
Hazare
Mankad
Engineer
Kapil Dev
Kumble
Bedi
Prasanna
We are saying here India are going with 4 spinners to try to exploit Australia's historical weakness againts spin
Australian XI:
Trumper
Hayden
Bradman
Chappell
Waugh
Miller
Gilchrist
Warne
Lillee
McGrath
O'Reilly
Australia would have Hayden, Bradman, Chappell & Waugh for sure who would be able to counter the superb spin threat. Miller & Trumper would be ok, Gilly would be hit & miss.
Bowling McGrath one of the best overseas bowlers on flat tracks, Lillee even though he didn't play much in India during his great career its fair enough to presume he would have done well & Miller , O'Reilly a kumble style leggie who would enjoy bowling on Indian wickets, while i guess based on his performances Warne may struggle a bit, but he could bowl well if he keeps his head on.
Looking at this imagining a raging turner infront of a jam packed Eden Gardens in blazing sunshine i'd say it would be a dog fight, that India may win in the end for real.
BhupinderSingh
Banned
Is this thread for discussing best # 6 or All Time XIs of different countries?
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Any team with Bradman in it has an unfair advantage, so yea Aussies might win a test or two. But plenty of our batsman are bradmanesque when the ball doesn't move in the air. 
I would still think the series would be tied or won by India.
In Australia (or in any other country), we'd lose pretty badly, especially when we lose the toss and are unable to post a daunting total in the first innings. Because we'd almost always have to face one, from an all time team batting first against us.
So in like a 5 test series vs. other countries, we would win like 3-2 in India, but lose like 4-0 outside.
I would still think the series would be tied or won by India.
In Australia (or in any other country), we'd lose pretty badly, especially when we lose the toss and are unable to post a daunting total in the first innings. Because we'd almost always have to face one, from an all time team batting first against us.
So in like a 5 test series vs. other countries, we would win like 3-2 in India, but lose like 4-0 outside.
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grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Surprised no-one mentioned this guy for the South Africans van der bijl.
Or are you only considering those who played Test cricket.
Or are you only considering those who played Test cricket.
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NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
1986-2006 World Test XIgrecian said:
Sorry.Cricinfo said:
Fails to qualify for two reasons: 1) He never played a test.
2) He never played those tests that he never played between 1986 and 2006.
Shocking grammar.
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grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
NZTailender said:1986-2006 World Test XI
Sorry.
1) He never played a test.
2) He never played those tests that he never played between 1986 and 2006.
Shocking grammar.
Umm, sorry the convo had gone into an all-time SA XI, but admittedly it was very off-topic.
Moving on........
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
grecian said:
Haha. Once again, I look the complete tool.Sorry mate.
JBH001
International Regular
Well, considering the votes cast it seems a little too late, but I do not think Imran should be in this side. I mean, the man began his test career in the mid 70s - I honestly do not think he belongs in a side with players whose career was mainly 86 onwards.
(But that is just a personal point of view)
Also, his record is inflated post 86 do to the large number of NO that I believe he had during that time - and though his bowling average is exceptional, his wkts/test ratio needs a lot to be desired.
And if he is to be captain - I do not think he would be a good captain of this side. The tendency to lord it over his team is sure to cause friction in a team full of superstars.
Therefore, I am voting for Tugga. A great batsman, perhaps the 3rd best bat of the last 20 years after Lara and Tendy, and an exceptional Captain.
Moreover he can roll his arm over too.
This means that Murali will most likely not be included - so be it, Akram would probably shore up the batting even further at 8, and would further give great variation and venom with his bowling.
Tugga at 6 for me.
(But that is just a personal point of view)
Also, his record is inflated post 86 do to the large number of NO that I believe he had during that time - and though his bowling average is exceptional, his wkts/test ratio needs a lot to be desired.
And if he is to be captain - I do not think he would be a good captain of this side. The tendency to lord it over his team is sure to cause friction in a team full of superstars.
Therefore, I am voting for Tugga. A great batsman, perhaps the 3rd best bat of the last 20 years after Lara and Tendy, and an exceptional Captain.
Moreover he can roll his arm over too.
This means that Murali will most likely not be included - so be it, Akram would probably shore up the batting even further at 8, and would further give great variation and venom with his bowling.
Tugga at 6 for me.
BhupinderSingh
Banned
He did begin his career in 1970s but he was the
Rubbish.Because Imran's record got better & better in last 7-8 years of his career & he was the best allrounder in the world in 1980s(and arguably the best allrounder ever).And his wktstest ration in those few years doesn't look too good because he played many tests as a batsman alone.
Imran is considered to be one of the allrounder(arguably the best ever),best bowlers & best captains ever.Many people chose him to captain their ALL TIME XIs even.So,I'm unable to understand that why would someone say that Imran won't prove to be a good captain of 1986-2006 World XI.
Log on soon & u would see Murali getting more votes than Wasim Akram & others.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Yea i had mentioned him earlier, but even though his stats were superb, it would be unfair to pick him or the other top-class South African fast bowler of the period Garth Le Roux even though they may have been greats ahead of the likes of the Pollock's, Adcock etc..grecian said:
