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    Fleming averages 40.15 in test cricket with 9 centuries and 41 half-centuries. Considering he spends half his time batting on New Zealand pitches, do you think that if he had converted more of those half centuries in to centuries he would have been considered as one of the batting greats in the last 20-30 years?

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    i think if he were able to convert those half tons to tons then he would be a great player...but the fact that he can't means he isn;t

    well that seemed like an un useful post

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    hahhahah Laury

    Flem obviously has the ability, just not the concentration.

    But that's ok. I forgive him cos he's sexy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim
    Fleming averages 40.15 in test cricket with 9 centuries and 41 half-centuries. Considering he spends half his time batting on New Zealand pitches, do you think that if he had converted more of those half centuries in to centuries he would have been considered as one of the batting greats in the last 20-30 years?

    Any decent batsman that can convert all his half centuries to centuries would automatically become an all time great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JF.
    hahhahah Laury

    Flem obviously has the ability, just not the concentration.

    But that's ok. I forgive him cos he's sexy
    Is that you, Stephen?
    I like Fleming as a batsman. I watch international matches whenever Foxtell's around and he always impresses me. However, even his flourishing batting is overshone by his captaincy, which is admittedly excellent.

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    The old stats kinda speak for themselves.

    He averages five runs more, and has scored seven of his nine centuries overseas, despite playing just about the same number of tests home and away (give or take a few).

    Maybe we're right in not having home tests?

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    Some mighty fine sherlocking there Voltman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim
    Fleming averages 40.15 in test cricket with 9 centuries and 41 half-centuries. Considering he spends half his time batting on New Zealand pitches, do you think that if he had converted more of those half centuries in to centuries he would have been considered as one of the batting greats in the last 20-30 years?
    Is there any way of finding out a batsman's median score rather than their average? Because I wouldn't mind betting that Fleming's median wouldn't be too far off the likes of Inzi, Ponting etc
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    Three double centuries too, one of which would almost certainly have been a triple if he hadn't declared. One in every three times he gets 100 he goes on to double it....more of the same info just spat out in anonther way I guess but it still sounds impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltman
    The old stats kinda speak for themselves.

    He averages five runs more, and has scored seven of his nine centuries overseas, despite playing just about the same number of tests home and away (give or take a few).

    Maybe we're right in not having home tests?
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    Some mighty fine sherlocking there Voltman.
    Maybe, but not accurate.
    The difference between average in home and away tests is actually far greater than mentioned.
    It is
    Home- 32.98
    Away- 46.26

    A difference of over 13
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    Hmmm, I knew I should have tried harder in maths class at school.

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    Flemers is a great player. He could be a better player, take his 262* against the Seth Africans in April, that was him at his best. It sure is a shame that he doesnt have a better conversion rate but he is in my book consistent
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    Quote Originally Posted by chooka_nick
    Is that you, Stephen?
    I like Fleming as a batsman. I watch international matches whenever Foxtell's around and he always impresses me. However, even his flourishing batting is overshone by his captaincy, which is admittedly excellent.
    Intriguing - most Aussies won't recognise his ability with the bat. Guess the trans-tasman rivalry gets in the way His cover drive is exquisite but those straight sixes always get me. He thumps the hell out of it then just casually stands there ... like... doesn't everyone do this?

    But his captaincy is to die for. Wish we had him

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    Quote Originally Posted by JF.
    Intriguing - most Aussies won't recognise his ability with the bat. Guess the trans-tasman rivalry gets in the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JF.
    His cover drive is exquisite but those straight sixes always get me. He thumps the hell out of it then just casually stands there ... like... doesn't everyone do this?

    But his captaincy is to die for. Wish we had him
    Couldn't agree more about his batting, when he plays those cover drives it is absolutely breath taking how beautiful the shot is. And on occasion when he really feels like hitting the ball he can play some jaw dropping innings (like this) where he is hitting sixes so effortlessly by just swinging through the line. And the way he stands there so casually and admires his shot is pretty good too, just a pity he couldn't concentrate harder and convert more of those 41 Test 50's.
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