Best captain in world cricket

[Pratters]

If you would have to select from the current lot, who and why. Also, how would you rate them against historically top notch captains.

Not sure if Vaughan should be in the discussion or not but I why not include him in the discussion as well. Also, contemporary players who aren't captains any more or missed it might be discussed just to widen it if felt - like say a Jayasuriya. and Warney (I am sure many would feel he would have made a great captain and was a bit unlucky).

 

[Autobahn]

If you would have to select from the current lot, who and why. Also, how would you rate them against historically top notch captains.

Not sure if Vaughan should be in the discussion or not but I why not include him in the discussion as well. Also, contemporary players who aren't captains any more or missed it might be discussed just to widen it if felt - like say a Jayasuriya. and Warney (I am sure many would feel he would have made a great captain and was a bit unlucky).

Warne probably sunk his own chances to be fair.

It's a toss-up between fleming and Vaughan really both are highly intelligent captains who know how to get the best out of the players in the team much like Brearley.

 

[Langeveldt]

Vaughany

 

[GIMH]

Ricky "We'll have a bowl mate" Ponting deserves a mention, his captaincy helped England win the Ashes for the first time in 18 years

 

[shortpitched713]

Jayawardene has been good of late. A lot of people don't seem to be talking about him that much (probably because he's fairly new), but if Sri Lanka keep winning, I think he should deserve some credit. He seems better than Atapattu, more aggresive and more likely to lead from the front.

 

[Tim]

Maybe not so much for test cricket right now, but I still feel Stephen Fleming is the best ODI captain.

 

[Matt79]

Ricky "We'll have a bowl mate" Ponting deserves a mention, his captaincy helped England win the Ashes for the first time in 18 years

So wil Ponting ever be able to redeem himself in the eyes of people on this forum for that mistake, or was his performance on that tour of England enough to consign him to 'bad captain' status for ever, regardless of what he may achieve in the future?

I'm not saying that i think he's been a brilliant captain since then, but its a hypothetical...

 

[Johnners]

Dravid & Jayawardene have been impressive in their relatively short Captaincy careers!!

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

So wil Ponting ever be able to redeem himself in the eyes of people on this forum for that mistake, or was his performance on that tour of England enough to consign him to 'bad captain' status for ever, regardless of what he may achieve in the future?

I'm not saying that i think he's been a brilliant captain since then, but its a hypothetical...

It's more than just one mistake or one tour that has diminished his fan club.

 

[aussie]

It's more than just one mistake or one tour that has diminished his fan club.

People keep going on and on about Ponting chosing to bowl first at Edgbaston, but i maintain at the time it was not the worst decision. If you want to talk about poor captaincy decisions similar to that what about all the captains over the years who have won the toss & sent Australia in @ the Gabba..

 

[Barney Rubble]

Vaughan >>> daylight >>> Fleming, Dravid, Jayawardene

 

[Gajanayake]

Vaughan >>> daylight >>> Fleming, Dravid, Jayawardene

Not disputing Vaughan is the best captain but do you think he's that much better than Fleming.
Fleming doesn't have the luxury of calling on a bowling attack comprising Harmison, Jones, Flintoff and Hoggard so obvioulsy his results aren't gpoing to be as good ....but with what he had, I think he did a very good job.

 

[aussie]

Vaughan >>> daylight >>> Fleming, Dravid, Jayawardene

I have seen nothing from Dravid & Jayawardene so far to say that are better captains than Ponting.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Not disputing Vaughan is the best captain but do you think he's that much better than Fleming.
Fleming doesn't have the luxury of calling on a bowling attack comprising Harmison, Jones, Flintoff and Hoggard so obvioulsy his results aren't gpoing to be as good ....but with what he had, I think he did a very good job.

Note that all of those bowlers have done much better under Vaughan's captaincy. That's what sets him apart - his handling of his players.

 

[nightprowler10]

Note that all of those bowlers have done much better under Vaughan's captaincy. That's what sets him apart - his handling of his players.

Under Vaughan's captaincy or Cooley's supervision?

 

[Slats4ever]

i think vaughan and flemming rock my socks off. ponting as a captain is a bit've a goose but he doesn't have the best cricket brain!!!

 

[superkingdave]

hmm, not sure Vaughan is that great tbh, right man at the right time n all

 

[Barney Rubble]

Under Vaughan's captaincy or Cooley's supervision?

It was Cooley who made them good bowlers, but without the right captain good bowlers are often wasted.

 

[BoyBrumby]

If we exclude Vaughan as a current captain (& I think we must) it has to be Fleming, although he doesn't seem to be quite as dynamic as he used to be.

 

[marc71178]

People keep going on and on about Ponting chosing to bowl first at Edgbaston, but i maintain at the time it was not the worst decision.

No, the worst decision would've been to concede the game.

That however wasn't an option at the time so thus it was the worst decision he could have made at the time.