Scott Muller v Shane Warne

Salamuddin · 07-09-2006, 03:48 PM

Why does everyone jump on Muller';s back when he made the accusation that Warne was the one who said "can't bowl, can't throw" ?

The voice on the tape sounds like Warne and doesn't it seem fishy that channel 9, quickly wheeled out a cameraman who supposedly said those words. What's in it for nine whether Warne said those words or not ? Channel 9' director o sport Greg Burns said at the time that cameramen sometimes make comments during the coverage and it is heard before they can edit it.....but I have been watching channel 9's coverage since 1988-1889 and before 1999, never heard any comments on the coverage other than the commentary team and players on the park.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 07-09-2006, 03:50 PM

But.... most people I've talked to believe it was Warne who made the comment.

Salamuddin · 07-09-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

But.... most people I've talked to believe it was Warne who made the comment.

Our esteemed Top_cat and Faaiap both think Muller had some sort of vendetta against Warne and that he made it all up.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 07-09-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Salamuddin

Our esteemed Top_cat and Faaiap both think Muller had some sort of vendetta against Warne and that he made it all up.

He may have had a vendetta against Warne, but I can still easily see Warne having said it.

Mister Wright · 07-09-2006, 08:20 PM

It was Warne.

I mean seriously! How many times have we ever heard on a live braodcast what the cameraman has had to say? Only once? How about never.

howardj · 07-09-2006, 09:54 PM

Honestly, I would stake my life and my family's fortune on that remark being made by Simon O'Donnell. Anyone, being objective, who listens to the voice could only reach the same conclusion. Never been more confident of anything.

Mister Wright · 07-09-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by howardj

Honestly, I would stake my life and my family's fortune on that remark being made by Simon O'Donnell. Anyone, being objective, who listens to the voice could only reach the same conclusion. Never been more confident of anything.

All in hey?...I'll call.

howardj · 07-09-2006, 09:58 PM

Top_Cat · 08-09-2006, 03:07 AM

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Our esteemed Top_cat and Faaiap both think Muller had some sort of vendetta against Warne and that he made it all up.

Rubbish. Total crap. Never said anything of the sort. What I said was that Muller believed it was Warne but he was wrong. I've said who I know it was previously and I don't intend to bring it up again because it was 6 years ago for crying out loud against a player who is long gone from his state side. LET IT GO ALREADY.

SJS · 08-09-2006, 03:15 AM

I dont know who said it. I never knew about this whole thing anyway. But I am amused at how much of debate it has generated.

Suppose Warne did say it. Whats the big deal? Would it have been the first time a player made such a comment against a fellow player? I have heard such a comment on so many occasions from top players its not funny.

Sit with Bishen Bedi for ten minutes and you will hear it ten times. And he isnt the only one.

Fans arent the only ones with firm opinions about merits or demerits of players.

FaaipDeOiad · 08-09-2006, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Salamuddin

Our esteemed Top_cat and Faaiap both think Muller had some sort of vendetta against Warne and that he made it all up.

Eh? I never said who I thought it was.

What I said was that in Warne's book, Warne claims he didn't say it (obviously), and that Muller thought that he did. Warne says he tried to call him to apologise several times, and Muller responded by threatening to sue and so on.

I don't really know or care who it was to be honest. Warne says it wasn't him and that Joe guy admitted to it, so I'm inclined to believe that rather than a conspiricy theory, without some sort of compelling evidence.

Slow Love™ · 08-09-2006, 04:37 AM

Reading Faaip's earlier post (in another thread) about what Warne said in his book, it seems that Shane's essentially made it a moot point as to whether he made the remark or not, as he dismisses Muller as being fairly useless anyway.

It's all a bit of a sad story, anyway, and I feel very sorry for Muller. That's a lousy way to be remembered, and there have probably been numerous players (some of which would have had substantially lengthier careers) who were similarly talented or less.

It makes you think - sometimes it's better to just miss out on playing top level than to actually make it, and face that kind of humiliation.

silentstriker · 08-09-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow Love™

Reading Faaip's earlier post (in another thread) about what Warne said in his book, it seems that Shane's essentially made it a moot point as to whether he made the remark or not, as he dismisses Muller as being fairly useless anyway.

It's all a bit of a sad story, anyway, and I feel very sorry for Muller. That's a lousy way to be remembered, and there have probably been numerous players (some of which would have had substantially lengthier careers) who were similarly talented or less.

It makes you think - sometimes it's better to just miss out on playing top level than to actually make it, and face that kind of humiliation.

No, I'll take playing at that level, and being humiliated by Warne, than not playing at all

.

It'd be another thing if Rikki humiliated me, but Warne I can take.

Slow Love™ · 08-09-2006, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

No, I'll take playing at that level, and being humiliated by Warne, than not playing at all

.

It'd be another thing if Rikki humiliated me, but Warne I can take.

Well, I just think of my grandkids on my knee:

"Kids, I nearly made it to international level. I was THIS close."
vs
"Kids, I did play two tests, it''s true. But the WHOLE WORLD LAUGHED at my ineptitude, and they're still laughing about it now."

Easy choice for me...

Perry Mason · 08-09-2006, 08:57 AM

It's the difference between being Mick Lewis and Mal Loye

07-09-2006, 03:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Salamuddin International Debutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lakemba, Sydney Posts: 2,074	Scott Muller v Shane Warne Why does everyone jump on Muller';s back when he made the accusation that Warne was the one who said "can't bowl, can't throw" ? The voice on the tape sounds like Warne and doesn't it seem fishy that channel 9, quickly wheeled out a cameraman who supposedly said those words. What's in it for nine whether Warne said those words or not ? Channel 9' director o sport Greg Burns said at the time that cameramen sometimes make comments during the coverage and it is heard before they can edit it.....but I have been watching channel 9's coverage since 1988-1889 and before 1999, never heard any comments on the coverage other than the commentary team and players on the park.

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Slow Love™ International Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,079	Reading Faaip's earlier post (in another thread) about what Warne said in his book, it seems that Shane's essentially made it a moot point as to whether he made the remark or not, as he dismisses Muller as being fairly useless anyway. It's all a bit of a sad story, anyway, and I feel very sorry for Muller. That's a lousy way to be remembered, and there have probably been numerous players (some of which would have had substantially lengthier careers) who were similarly talented or less. It makes you think - sometimes it's better to just miss out on playing top level than to actually make it, and face that kind of humiliation. __________________ "Youre known for having a liking for men who look like women." - Linda "FFS I'm sick and tired of having to see a bloke bend over to pick something up or lean over and see their arse crack. For christ's sake pull your pants up or buy some underpants you bogan because nobody want's to see it. And this is a boat building shed (well one of them) not a porn studio." - Craig Last edited by Slow Love™; 08-09-2006 at 04:40 AM.

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howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,107	Honestly, I would stake my life and my family's fortune on that remark being made by Simon O'Donnell. Anyone, being objective, who listens to the voice could only reach the same conclusion. Never been more confident of anything.

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SJS Hall of Fame Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mumbai India Posts: 19,172	I dont know who said it. I never knew about this whole thing anyway. But I am amused at how much of debate it has generated. Suppose Warne did say it. Whats the big deal? Would it have been the first time a player made such a comment against a fellow player? I have heard such a comment on so many occasions from top players its not funny. Sit with Bishen Bedi for ten minutes and you will hear it ten times. And he isnt the only one. Fans arent the only ones with firm opinions about merits or demerits of players.

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