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    Quote Originally Posted by shortpitched713
    Here's what I think is England's best one-day side including currently injured players.

    1. Tresco
    2. Strauss
    3. Cook?
    4. Pietersen
    5. Flintoff*
    6. Collingwood
    7. Read
    8. Giles
    9. Gough
    10. Harmison
    11. Anderson

    There are a lot of contenders for the number 3 spot, but I really don't see anyone better than Cook.
    England are wasting their time with guys like Strauss and Gough, tbh....better to get in a youngster than over the hill/proven-not-to-ODi-standard players.

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    hes rubbish he will average like 15 or 10 in test cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    Last two bowlers left in England? The way I see it, it's either Mahmood or anybody-but-Mahmood.

    I'd like to see this guy get a go.

    woops....forgot Mascarenhas.....yeah I'd definitely give him a go.

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    um yeah good team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by open365
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    I'd add good old Blackie to that list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna
    I'd add good old Blackie to that list
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas
    Trescothick
    Strauss
    Bell
    Pietersen
    Colingwood
    Flinotff
    Dalryrmple (i know he isnt great but he has performed pretty well)
    Read
    Harmisson
    Anderson
    Jones

    Tremlett
    Mascharenhas
    Joyce
    Cook
    Giles
    Much better, not debates at all..

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    Quote Originally Posted by open365
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    I'd like to see some creativity from the England management. Simply going in with their best test players or players who they think have a future in tests is never going to work. Knowing that English List A cricket is rubbish, id pick my players based on form rather than talent. My squad for the world cup would be something like this:
    Joyce
    Trescothick
    Bell
    Flintoff
    Pietersen
    Dalrymple
    Read
    Giles/Blackwell
    Anderson
    Lewis
    Collingwood
    Chapple
    Harmison
    Loye/Ramprakash/Afzaal

    Really, the only certainities id have for my XI on any given day would be Pietersen and Flintoff while the rest i think should be picked based on their form. For example there would be absolutely no point in picking Tresco when hes in the worst form of his life, as he is right now. Similarly the idea of having collingwood as a regular player may seem absolutely idiotic given how poor hes been recently but if he were a replacement player who only played when he was scoring runs, either in warm ups or in domestic cricket, it would look a lot better.
    I'd also like to see more flexibility when it comes to the batting order. The point of having Pietersen coming at 4 no matter what is ridiculous, because theres no point having him come in in the first 10 overs. id much rather have him come after flintoff in those situations. Meanwhile if there is a significant top order partnership then pietersen can obviously still bat at 4. Similarly i'd be interested in using players like Chris Read or Dalrymple as pinch hitters occasionally on a flat wicket just to try something different.
    I dont think Cook is good enough to play ODI cricket just yet, he doesnt have many shots in his armoury and his whole game revolves around temperament and knowing where his off stump is, not to mention that he doesnt play aerial shots.
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    From what I've seen of England ODI and Pro40 cricket this season and earlier, I'd go:

    Flintoff (c)
    Pietersen
    Trescothick
    Strauss
    Bell
    Cook
    Mascarenhas
    Collingwood
    Yardy
    Dalrymple
    Panesar
    Kirtley
    Harmison
    Anderson
    Read (k)

    From this squad of fifteen, I'd normally play the three specialist seamers, with Flintoff and spin back-up from Dalrymple or Yardy. In good spinning conditions, just play Monty. He's not proven himself in the short format yet, but he's by far England's best spinner and he's a quick learner.

    In Collingwood and Mascarenhas there's medium pace back-up if needed, and then there's room for four of these five: Pietersen, Trescothick, Cook, Strauss, Bell.

    With Flintoff and Read in the team, you're guaranteed batting at a good SR down to 8, so no problems there.

    Ideal XI?

    Trescothick
    Pietersen
    Strauss
    Bell
    Collingwood
    Flintoff
    Dalrymple or Yardy
    Read
    Harmison
    Anderson
    Kirtley or Monty

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    Plus two Indians, two Pakistanis, one South African, one West Indian and four Australians should be just fine

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    Let's see:

    two Indians: Panesar and Solanki
    two Pakistani: Mahmood and Afzaal
    one South African: Pietersen
    one West Indian: Joyce (come on, Ireland is an island to the west of England)
    four Australians: G Jones, Stuart Law, Murray Goodwin, Ian Harvey

    As always, spot on, SJS

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