Chris Read - I'm Not Convinced

[Bob Bamber]

Read replaced Jones on the fact that he was in better form with the bat. But you go the feeling that people were getting on Jones' back because he kept dropping chances. But Read won't dive across. The ones that Jones is dropping Read isn't even going for.

[steds]

I agree totally. Was going to post something along the lines of this when I could be arsed myself. Can't drop it if you don't go for it, eh Chris?

[Turbinator]

Originally Posted by Bob Bamber

Read replaced Jones on the fact that he was in better form with the bat. But you go the feeling that people were getting on Jones' back because he kept dropping chances. But Read won't dive across. The ones that Jones is dropping Read isn't even going for.

Give him a bit of time........plus he wasnt that bad with the bat in the test series.

[SpaceMonkey]

People moaned when Jones would dive across the first slip, now they moan when Read wont dive across first slip!

Dont you just love this game!

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

TBH, I'm less convinced about Read's batting. No genuine movement of the feet and never really looked certain at the crease. That said, he looked better than Geraint Jones has for about a year now.

[Oli Norwell]

For me Read had a poor game in the first ODI, and hasn't looked settled since he got back in the team. He seems to be scared of going for things in case he drops them, the Sky commentators picked this out well during the game. And as for those byes he let go in the first over, Jones would have got slaughtered for that.

I reckon he'll get the first couple of tests against Australia, then the selectors will be looking for any reason to get Jones back. You could see Tresco wasn't happy with the situation tonight.

[steds]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

People moaned when Jones would dive across the first slip, now they moan when Read wont dive across first slip!

Dont you just love this game!

This has happened three times in three matches now, and they've all been to Trescothick's left, meaning Read wouldn't be diving across slip if he went for them, just towards him. Although today was closer to Trescothick than the other two.

[Alysum]

Jones sucks at batting AND keeping. Read is a good choice, should have done this move before the Ashes where Jones dropped soo many

[pinchy81]

they both suck IMO Prior for England keeper

[aussie]

Originally Posted by Bob Bamber

Read replaced Jones on the fact that he was in better form with the bat. But you go the feeling that people were getting on Jones' back because he kept dropping chances. But Read won't dive across. The ones that Jones is dropping Read isn't even going for.

I disagree, those catches that people & the commentators are suggesting that Read could have dived across for is being a bit unfare. I would say they were more down to positioning problems between him & Trescothick. But it doesn't hide the fact that Read still looks more safer behind the stumps than Jones & his batting has improved since 2004.

But he has just come back lets wait until the end of the ashes before we can make a good hard judgement on his overall game.

[steds]

Originally Posted by aussie

I disagree, those catches that people & the commentators are suggesting that Read could have dived across for is being a bit unfare. I would say they were more down to positioning problems between him & Trescothick.

No it isn't unfair. All the chances Have been to Trescothick's left. If you're suggesting Trescothick is standing too wide, that should mean the keeper should take more responsibility for those catches and be sensible enough to go for them because he should know where his first slip is.
We've seen Jones take ones infront of Trescothick. If Read's such a better keeper, why does he seem to be scared of showing he can take catches to Trescothick's left?

But it doesn't hide the fact that Read still looks more safer behind the stumps than Jones & his batting has improved since 2004.

Whe'n he going to show it, then?

But he has just come back lets wait until the end of the ashes before we can make a good hard judgement on his overall game.

You were quick to pounce of every single one of Geraint's mistakes this summer, though, despite his excellent keeping in the subcontinent. Leeway for one and none for the other? I hope if Read has a good Ashes tour, yet drops one or two next summer, you'll give him the same treatment. Can't be a hypocrite now, can we?

[The Baconator]

Originally Posted by pinchy81

they both suck IMO Prior for England keeper

Prior's just a poorer version of Jones.

[Steulen]

Not diving across first slip is a good thing, imo, but I agree Read has so far been too conservative with his right-hand diving. May have something to do with Jones' excessive diving, who knows.

Still I think it's been an improvement having Read in the side, he kept very well in the Tests.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Originally Posted by The Baconator

Prior's just a poorer version of Jones.

Better batsman IMO. Not in terms of talent, but in terms of production. And yes, that does paint a very bleak picture of Geraint Jones.

Regarding the Prior > Jones + Read comment, get off it pinchy. It'sa makin' yuh crazeee.

[_TiGeR-ToWn_]

Never really rated either of them since the retirement of Stewart, he was a quality player. They are just filling the roles until a young gun emerges and then England will have a good keeper/batsman again.