Soth Africa ball tampered in 1997

[Salamuddin]

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200608260324.htm


Well, well and I didn't think any of the holier than thou crowd of Australia, South AFrica
and England engaged in ball tampering......

 

[Barney Rubble]

Grow up.

 

[AussieDominance]

but Woolmer is now your coach bit of a coincidence

 

[TT Boy]

Man has a point.

 

[AussieDominance]

Grow up.

yes totally agree Barney childish act South Africa may have ball tampered but they have not proven it it is just a claim

and mentioning Australia and England has no relevance to the topic btw you are an Australian if you live in Lakemba these countries had absolutely nothign to do with the Topic

 

[Salamuddin]

yes totally agree Barney childish act South Africa may have ball tampered but they have not proven it it is just a claim

and mentioning Australia and England has no relevance to the topic btw you are an Australian if you live in Lakemba these countries had absolutely nothign to do with the Topic

So where is the proof that Pakistan ball tampered at the Oval ?

 

[Salamuddin]

Grow up.

I'm not the one who thinks Engand's cricketers were so disvantaged on the subcontinent....because they stayed in five star hotels like the Taj....yup really tough life there

 

[Barney Rubble]

I'm not the one who thinks Engand's cricketers were so disvantaged on the subcontinent....because they stayed in five star hotels like the Taj....yup really tough life there

When the hell did I say they were disadvantaged? All I said is they don't enjoy touring the subcontinent, which is backed up by things the players themselves said at the time. Get your facts right.

 

[AussieDominance]

well wait for the hearing then big man!

 

[Salamuddin]

yes totally agree Barney childish act South Africa may have ball tampered but they have not proven it it is just a claim

and mentioning Australia and England has no relevance to the topic btw you are an Australian if you live in Lakemba these countries had absolutely nothign to do with the Topic

Well if I'm not mistaken Bracken accused the English team of ball tampering in last year's Ashes didn't he ?
And a few other Aussies admitted off the record that they though England were tampering with the ball during the course of that series.

Darren Lehmann was caught picking at the seam during a ODi in Sydney a couple of years ago --- something Tony GReig was quick to latch onto but as usual Dazza was left alone by the match referees....

My point is I've read al lot of literature (e.g the Sydney morning Herald editoral from a couple of days ago) where people have implied that is a typical Pakistani trait... other teams are also likely to have been guilty of it.

 

[Salamuddin]

When the hell did I say they were disadvantaged? All I said is they don't enjoy touring the subcontinent, which is backed up by things the players themselves said at the time. Get your facts right.

You also said the hotels weren'tr good.....which is a load of rubbish....beacuse England got to stay at hotels like the Taj and Claridge's which aren't exactly shoddy motels

 

[AussieDominance]

yes he did but it was not a proven point was it Lehmann was caught for being racist at Sri Lankans he was caught so what is your point about Dazza being left alone all the time if you have read a lot of literature why can't you spell Sydney Morning Herald no other team except the Pakistanis and Indian have been proved of doing it

 

[AussieDominance]

You also said the hotels weren'tr good.....which is a load of rubbish....beacuse England got to stay at hotels like the Taj and Claridge's which aren't exactly shoddy motels

I think your getting motels and hotels mixed up!

 

[Salamuddin]

yes he did but it was not a proven point was it Lehmann was caught for being racist at Sri Lankans he was caught so what is your point about Dazza being left alone all the time if you have read a lot of literature why can't you spell Sydney Morning Herald no other team except the Pakistanis and Indian have been proved of doing it

Err...didn't Atherton tamper with the ball. He isn't Indian or Pakistani as far as I know.....

And now a respected match referee has come out and said that the South Africans were guilty of it......some people really need to come off their high horses.

 

[AussieDominance]

well you really need to as well mate making a claim that Australian's have ball tampered where is the proof and Atherton was not proved he got fined $2,000 for having dirt in his pocket see http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/1511763.stm

 

[Barney Rubble]

You also said the hotels weren'tr good.....which is a load of rubbish....beacuse England got to stay at hotels like the Taj and Claridge's which aren't exactly shoddy motels

Yes, I did say that. I was wrong. However, that doesn't change the fact that it's totally irrelevant to this thread.

 

[Salamuddin]

well you really need to as well mate making a claim that Australian's have ball tampered where is the proof and Atherton was not proved he got fined $2,000 for having dirt in his pocket see http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/1511763.stm

Well I really don't see the difference between what ATherton did and what Tendulkar diod in RSa 2001.
If Tendullkar ball tampered then, then surely Atherton did the same.

If you're altering the condition of the bal;l in a non-permitted way, then you are ball tampering. Atherton ball tampered. Period.

 

[Salamuddin]

Yes, I did say that. I was wrong. However, that doesn't change the fact that it's totally irrelevant to this thread.

Well I didn't say it was relevant did I....I brought it up sarcastically beacuse you asked me to grow up when you of all people though poor England had such a dreadful; time of it on the subcontinent .

 

[AussieDominance]

he was accused but not proven

 

[Salamuddin]

he was accused but not proven

You're picking at nits.

He was fined so technically he breached the rules in the same way that guys like Dravid And Tendulkar did - so if Tendulkar and Dravid ball tampered, so did ATherton and hence an English player has ball tampered.