Foreign Players to take part in Ranji/Duleep trophy ?

Gajanayake · 07-08-2006, 05:28 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cric...ia/5252350.stm

I think this would be a good move to get more interest in the domestic game - provided they can lure the right kind of players.
Getting the likes of Lara or Hayden would prove very enticing indeed.

Gajanayake · 07-08-2006, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gajanayake

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cric...ia/5252350.stm

I think this would be a good move to get more interest in the domestic game - provided they can lure the right kind of players.
Getting the likes of Lara or Hayden would prove very enticing indeed.

One possibility is the for English players warming up for the Ashes (e.g Ashley Giles) to play iin the Duleep trophy. The Duleep trophy this year is likely to feature several Indian test players ahead of the tour to South Africa so the competition will be quite high.

stumpski · 07-08-2006, 05:46 AM

Nice idea, but most of the English players will have just come out of a 5 month domestic season, and would want to rest up before the Ashes. You'd have a better chance with some of the senior players not selected for the Champions trophy or Australia - Hick, Ramprakash, Crawley - and probably Gough.

Gajanayake · 07-08-2006, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by stumpski

Nice idea, but most of the English players will have just come out of a 5 month domestic season, and would want to rest up before the Ashes. You'd have a better chance with some of the senior players not selected for the Champions trophy or Australia - Hick, Ramprakash, Crawley - and probably Gough.

I seriously doubt India would accept blokes like those. I think the BCCI are looking for guys who are quality at international level not has-beens or rejects from another domestic league - guys who would drive up interest in domestic games. The likes of Ramprakash or Crawley turning out for West Zone (if they made the squad) wouldn't achieve that imo - but someone like Hayden or Lara or McGill most definitely would.

I'm not sure how workable the idea is but that definitely seems to be the BCCI thinking.

It doesn't make much sense for India to accept players who are simply honest triers at county level - two years ago an England A team composed of those kinds of players came to INdia and with the exception of Simon Jones and Pietersen, the rest were very poor.

stumpski · 07-08-2006, 06:09 AM

Ramprakash is averaging over 100 in the Championship this year - some 'has-been.' And he wants to get 100 centuries - I should think he'd jump at the chance to play a few matches in India.

Gajanayake · 07-08-2006, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stumpski

Ramprakash is averaging over 100 in the Championship this year - some 'has-been.' And he wants to get 100 centuries - I should think he'd jump at the chance to play a few matches in India.

And you've completely missed the point - If a guy like Matty Hayden was willing and free to play in the Duleep trophy - who do you think the BCCI will choose - Ramprakash or Hayden ?

BoyBrumby · 07-08-2006, 06:20 AM

Might be a good idea for some of our spinners to get some experience of the subcontinent conditions. I couldn't realistically see Monty being selected for the Champions Trophy, so there's a small window for him there.

Might be quite a crowd-puller too, first Sikh to play for England & all.

aussie · 07-08-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Might be a good idea for some of our spinners to get some experience of the subcontinent conditions. I couldn't realistically see Monty being selected for the Champions Trophy, so there's a small window for him there.

Might be quite a crowd-puller too, first Sikh to play for England & all.

yea thats seems like a pretty good idea.

UncleTheOne · 07-08-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gajanayake

And you've completely missed the point - If a guy like Matty Hayden was willing and free to play in the Duleep trophy - who do you think the BCCI will choose - Ramprakash or Hayden ?

Well I'd much rather watch Ramprakash bat than Hayden that's for sure. But yeah there's no doubt that Hayden would bring in a bigger crowd.

marc71178 · 07-08-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gajanayake

If a guy like Matty Hayden was willing and free to play in the Duleep trophy

Then either Cricket Australia will have taken leave of their senses or he'll have retired from Internationals.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 07-08-2006, 04:54 PM

Get Cook out there ASAP, with Shane Warne looming.

stumpski · 07-08-2006, 05:14 PM

I don't think any current England international would be interested in playing. They only have about four weeks off between the end of the English season and the Champions Trophy. I could be wrong, but I'm sure some of these guys have families.

Monty ... hmmm, possible I suppose. He might enjoy it actually. But is he a big enough 'draw?'

Mr Mxyzptlk · 07-08-2006, 05:20 PM

Given present English attitudes, I don't see the sense in sending a first string team to the CT. It's not like they care about losing ODI matches anyway.

Goughy · 07-08-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

Given present English attitudes, I don't see the sense in sending a first string team to the CT. It's not like they care about losing ODI matches anyway.

Im sure it cannot be as simple as that. They will have contractual obligations in place with the ICC, TV, Sponsors etc that demand the best side is sent. Though with the way things are going that could be anyone.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 07-08-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Goughy

Im sure it cannot be as simple as that. They will have contractual obligations in place with the ICC, TV, Sponsors etc that demand the best side is sent. Though with the way things are going that could be anyone.

People want to see England play ODI cricket? Like... at all?

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stumpski Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Medway valley Posts: 5,276	Nice idea, but most of the English players will have just come out of a 5 month domestic season, and would want to rest up before the Ashes. You'd have a better chance with some of the senior players not selected for the Champions trophy or Australia - Hick, Ramprakash, Crawley - and probably Gough.

07-08-2006, 06:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
stumpski Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Medway valley Posts: 5,276	Ramprakash is averaging over 100 in the Championship this year - some 'has-been.' And he wants to get 100 centuries - I should think he'd jump at the chance to play a few matches in India.

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stumpski Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Medway valley Posts: 5,276	I don't think any current England international would be interested in playing. They only have about four weeks off between the end of the English season and the Champions Trophy. I could be wrong, but I'm sure some of these guys have families. Monty ... hmmm, possible I suppose. He might enjoy it actually. But is he a big enough 'draw?'

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Mr Mxyzptlk Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad) Posts: 36,795	Given present English attitudes, I don't see the sense in sending a first string team to the CT. It's not like they care about losing ODI matches anyway.

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