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    The players whom talent was wasted and were not handled well and they had all the potential to be successful on the international level .The selectors ,the management and the media just couldn't handle em properly .Result ,they were wasted .
    1.Azhar Mahmood
    2.Saqlain Mushtaq
    3.Sanjay Manjerakar
    4. Mushtaq Ahmed
    5. Bob Woolmer
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    Quote Originally Posted by FRAZ
    The players whom talent was wasted and were not handled well and they had all the potential to be successful on the international level .The selectors ,the management and the media just couldn't handle em properly .Result ,they were wasted .
    1.Azhar Mahmood
    2.Saqlain Mushtaq
    3.Sanjay Manjerakar
    4. Mushtaq Ahmed
    5. Bob Woolmer
    Bob Woolmer????

    From what I can remember Woolmer was did ok at county level and found himself in the England team...not what I would call wasted.
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    Saqlain and Mushtaq had pretty good International careers. They could've been MORE successful based on their talent, but they were not "wasted" IMO.

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    Saqlain was still wasted IMO. He could have been not just more, but so much more! He's always the first that comes to mind when I think of him. I was sure he was going to end his career the best ODI bowler ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusion
    Saqlain and Mushtaq had pretty good International careers. They could've been MORE successful based on their talent, but they were not "wasted" IMO.
    They may have had pretty good careers but they did not progress as many expected and Mushtaq could certainly played more games if the selectors so wished.

    I think many would have exected them to achieve more than they did/have.

    From a recent English perspective, if the selectors and squad mentality had been more like today I have little doubt that Hick, Ramprakash, Tufnell and Caddick would have been far more successful. I think their talents were wasred by the English cricket establishment by their inability to handle players of fragile temperament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Saqlain was still wasted IMO.
    Not the total waste though.

    Total waste were

    Laxman Sivaramakrishnan,
    Murali Kartik (I got it right this time )
    Sadanand Vishvanath
    Mohammad Akram,
    Mohammad Zahid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    Bob Woolmer????

    From what I can remember Woolmer was did ok at county level and found himself in the England team...not what I would call wasted.
    Your answer is all there in your reply my friend . Its all there !!!!

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    Shabbir Ahmed wasted .
    Aaqib Javed Partialy wasted

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRAZ
    Shabbir Ahmed wasted .
    Not talented enough to keep his arm straight, sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FRAZ
    Your answer is all there in your reply my friend . Its all there !!!!
    But what is there to suggest that Bob Woolmer was any better than an average County/Test player? He averaged about the same in both forms. That seems to indicate that he simply was average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusion
    Saqlain and Mushtaq had pretty good International careers. They could've been MORE successful based on their talent, but they were not "wasted" IMO.
    Absolutely rubbish display of knowledge about Saqlain and partialy right about Mushtaq. Saqi was one of the most succesfull bowlers in the ODI history my friend . You call it success when gentleman's injury was not handled well . And remember he had a problem with the selectors and Javed Miandad .And actually now he has wasted himself by being involved in some personal activities along with Saeed Anwar.
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    You should have checked the record of the gentleman and should have written your reply afterwards
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    200 Saqlain Mushtaq
    250 Saqlain Mushtaq
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    But what is there to suggest that Bob Woolmer was any better than an average County/Test player? He averaged about the same in both forms. That seems to indicate that he simply was average.
    Read the gentleman's biography please. He has stated it all there my friend . He shpuld have been given some more time but Alas !! By the way nice to see you !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRAZ
    Read the gentleman's biography please. He has stated it all there my friend . He shpuld have been given some more time but Alas !! By the way nice to see you !!!
    Oh right... because his biography says he was more talented than his results, that proves it? I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    Not talented enough to keep his arm straight, sadly.
    Actually was not given proper training and he was passing from one hand to another to get some education about getting the hand straight . Should have been reffered to Sarfraz in the first place ... And did not have proper representatives to

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