Flintoff will not play again this Summer

[Lillian Thomson]

This must cast doubts over his fitness for the Ashes Tour, although without surgery he would probably have no chance.

Flintoff out

 

[Swervy]

tis a shame

 

[open365]

I know it's impossible to prove a link, but i bet he wouldn't be in this mess if he hadn't have bowled 50 overs in one innings against Sri_-anka.

 

[grecian]

Yes, it may be impossible to prove that his injury comes from then, but many of us were worried about Freddies ridiculous workload in that first test-match.

He was the captain, but surely Fletcher should of idsads something, Monty was criminally underbowled.

Flintoff should be used as a shock bowler in a five man attack, anything else is putting undue pressure on him.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Rikki is the answer.

 

[AussieDominance]

Go Rikki hahahah

 

[AussieDominance]

maybe its the heatwave injuring all the pommies

 

[age_master]

yeah i heard the record was broken with a 36/37 odd degree day.

 

[chooka_nick]

Yes, it may be impossible to prove that his injury comes from then, but many of us were worried about Freddies ridiculous workload in that first test-match.

He was the captain, but surely Fletcher should of idsads something, Monty was criminally underbowled.

Flintoff should be used as a shock bowler in a five man attack, anything else is putting undue pressure on him.

I tend to agree. Andrew should be England's Brett Lee, and should be used as a shock-weapon. Anything else puts uneeded pressure on him.

 

[Nate]

When McGrath got injured in the Ashes, it was because of his old age. When Flintoff gets injured, it`s workload. I understand Flintoff has had pressure with bowling a lot of overs and captaining, but Pidge often bowls over 10 on the trot.

Where am I going with this? I have no idea. But I don`t know how England will now cope against Pakistan and in the Champions Trophy.

 

[Salamuddin]

THis is bad - I like Andrew Flintoff. He is a good fast bowler

 

[Craig]

Perhaps a good thing if he misses the rest of the summer, especially with an Ashes coming up?

 

[a massive zebra]

A couple of generations ago fast bowlers regularly bowled 1000 overs a season and hardly ever got injured. These days, international bowlers barely get through 300 overs in all types of cricket over an entire season, and are supposedly far fitter, yet get injured infinitely more often.

 

[Top_Cat]

When McGrath got injured in the Ashes, it was because of his old age.

You'll have to enlighten me as to how rolling ones ankle on a cricket ball in practice is because of 'old age'.....

A couple of generations ago fast bowlers regularly bowled 1000 overs a season and hardly ever got injured. These days, international bowlers barely get through 300 overs in all types of cricket over an entire season, and are supposedly far fitter, yet get injured infinitely more often.

No, never reported injuries. A lot of those bowlers, maybe through machismo as we as many other factors, were crippled later in life bcause of this and had FAR shorter careers at the highest level. Bowlers thse days are far more likely to miss games due to injuries other generations would have played on so this artificially boosts the numbers somewhat. Bowlers also bowl at their peak speed for much longer these days. Add that to the fact that people are seeing, because of the above mentioned injuries, just how stupid those workloads were. We ARE supposd to learn from the past, aren't we?

 

[TT Boy]

When McGrath got injured in the Ashes, it was because of his old age. When Flintoff gets injured, it`s workload. I understand Flintoff has had pressure with bowling a lot of overs and captaining, but Pidge often bowls over 10 on the trot.

Where am I going with this? I have no idea. But I don`t know how England will now cope against Pakistan and in the Champions Trophy.

Regardless if Flintoff participated in the Champions Trophy, we are not liable to do anything more than get are asses well and truly handed to us.

 

[marc71178]

I tend to agree. Andrew should be England's Brett Lee

God no, we want him to have ability.

 

[marc71178]

I understand Flintoff has had pressure with bowling a lot of overs and captaining, but Pidge often bowls over 10 on the trot.

When did he last do that then?

 

[a massive zebra]

No, never reported injuries. A lot of those bowlers, maybe through machismo as we as many other factors, were crippled later in life bcause of this and had FAR shorter careers at the highest level.

Who exactly are you talking about? Only English bowlers were faced with such a heavy workload, but the only England fast bowler I can think of who suffered a career threatening injury during this time was Frank Tyson, and he later became a successful coach of Victoria, so could hardly have been crippled (he was not really a regular 1000 overs a season man anyway). Other bowlers like Trueman, Statham, Bedser and so on actually had longer careers than most of the more recent England fast bowlers despite the much larger quantities of overs per season and none of them were crippled later in life.

Bowlers also bowl at their peak speed for much longer these days.

How do you know this, please provide some evidence (which given the paucity of speed measuring devices of yesteryear, is virtually impossible). It really looks like you are reverting to sweeping generalisations with no factual basis at all, just to prove me wrong. There may certainly have been some bowlers from past generations who lost their pace early on, but I very much doubt this was any more common than today, where off the top of my head you have Jones, Anderson, Collymore and Gillespie who all lost their peak pace very early in their careers.

Add that to the fact that people are seeing, because of the above mentioned injuries, just how stupid those workloads were. We ARE supposd to learn from the past, aren't we?

I am still waiting for you to mention a single instance of these alleged crippling injuries caused by being overbowled. Non English bowlers do not count as they were not subject to the 1000 over a season workout.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

The selectors will have to swallow their pride and bring back Derek Pringle.

 

[howardj]

Freddy's next few months...

July - November: recuperate.

Early November: Have nets, and be declared fit for the trip to Australia.

Mid-November: Ankle blows up in tour game before 1st Test - fly home.