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    Martin Crowe attacks officials, chuckers & Bangladesh/Zimbabwe


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    Martin could have used those 5 minutes to say something sensible. He was a great batsman though.

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    *sticks fingers in ears*

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    2 innings in ODIs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    2 innings in ODIs?
    Haha yeah, that was my first thought too. The rest of it I'd heard before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    2 innings in ODIs?
    Old fashioned Supertest, a la Packer years.

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    Mr.Crowe is no stranger to controversy...thinking back to his playing days, an ex-wife of his and not to mention his relations e.g. a certain Russell Crowe.

    Murali has gone through the process a number of times now, the case is pretty much closed as far as I can see.

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    The 2 innings thing has been mooted for a long time and it actually carries a degree of merit.

    The first reason is based on the fact that ODIs are hard for TV companies to schedule for as the length of time they last is unpredictable. A team, in their innings, can get bowled out cheaply leaving a crowd wanting more cricket and the TV people putting on subsitute programs and having a loss in ad revenue.

    2 Innings of 25 overs would break the game up and make it last an approximate time every time.

    The 2nd reason is due to the fact that early morning dew or batting under lights (depending on the start time) can carry advantages and disadvantages to the captains. Often the toss is very important. Spliting time under the different conditions would make the toss less of an advantage and puts more onus on the players ability. The advantages of the toss would not be eradicated but reduced.

    There are 2 ways of doing it. An innings can continue in the second innings where it left of after the first or their could be 2 completely seperate innings where the openers start each on and players can bat in both.

    It is something to be thought about.

    I actually dont think it was a bad interview and he has some thoughtful opinions.
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    Crowe was the one behind cricket max in NZ wasnt he?
    From memory it was 2 innings of ten overs each, same aim as 20/20. Also had a few gimmicks such as the 'max zone', at either end of the ground was a special area where all runs were doubled: 12 runs for a six, 8 for a four, not sure whether it applied to non-boundaries tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy
    The 2 innings thing has been mooted for a long time and it actually carries a degree of merit.

    The first reason is based on the fact that ODIs are hard for TV companies to schedule for as the length of time they last is unpredictable. A team, in their innings, can get bowled out cheaply leaving a crowd wanting more cricket and the TV people putting on subsitute programs and having a loss in ad revenue.

    2 Innings of 25 overs would break the game up and make it last an approximate time every time.

    The 2nd reason is due to the fact that early morning dew or batting under lights (depending on the start time) can carry advantages and disadvantages to the captains. Often the toss is very important. Spliting time under the different conditions would make the toss less of an advantage and puts more onus on the players ability. The advantages of the toss would not be eradicated but reduced.

    There are 2 ways of doing it. An innings can continue in the second innings where it left of after the first or their could be 2 completely seperate innings where the openers start each on and players can bat in both.

    It is something to be thought about.

    I actually dont think it was a bad interview and he has some thoughtful opinions.
    But once again, a team wouldn't have to las$t 50 overs, so we would be deprived of a variety of ODI knocks, because there would be less "batting for 35 overs or so on a bowler friendly wicket" ala Michael Bevan and grinding out some runs whilst ensuring you don't throw your wicket away. Instead a team, and hence a batsman, would only need to survive for 25 overs on both occasions. It takes away from the game.

    I have no intentions of making this a 20/20 argument by the way, but I find the length of a ODI being 50 overs perfect enough to strike a balance between valuing the 10 wickets of a team, and limiting the amount of overs they have. I acknowledge your points though.

    EDIT: Sorry I somehow missed that bit where you suggested "continuing the innings from overs 25-50 where they left off." Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedarkmullet
    Crowe was the one behind cricket max in NZ wasnt he?
    From memory it was 2 innings of ten overs each, same aim as 20/20. Also had a few gimmicks such as the 'max zone', at either end of the ground was a special area where all runs were doubled: 12 runs for a six, 8 for a four, not sure whether it applied to non-boundaries tho.
    We played like that at school. We had a tree in our school playgound and any shot hitting that tree yeilded 18 runs.

    Still a crap idea for international cricket.

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    Martin is angry I think !!!!! Any ways I guess he forgot to include the gentlemen who use performance enhancing drugs to play . I guess they are worse than Bangalis and Zims. And yes Zim (If had no internal problems) did contribute and as far as Bangladesh is concerned then "Worst higher level cricket related decisions".
    And chuk thing .Why not throw a bowler out right in the first match so that he developes his action in a positive way and why de-grading him after he has come into rythm and starts taking wickets at a regular and super pace. Well I agree to a certain degree that Murali had a suspicious action earlier on in his career and ironicaly he was noticed after when he was at peek of his career and if you will see Murali bowling in 92 and now ,then you will see a lot of difference . He has positively modified his action and now if the degree law has been made then why being mad at the man once again .
    Martin was a good batsman . And he did contribute a lot to the game but why is he so angry . Why ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by FRAZ
    Martin was a good batsman . And he did contribute a lot to the game but why is he so angry . Why ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy
    The 2nd reason is due to the fact that early morning dew or batting under lights (depending on the start time) can carry advantages and disadvantages to the captains. Often the toss is very important. Spliting time under the different conditions would make the toss less of an advantage and puts more onus on the players ability. The advantages of the toss would not be eradicated but reduced.
    The dew wouldn't last long enough for that to be evened out.
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    It's like cricinfo just interviewed me, yet covered it up with "Martin Crowe" to make it look better.. Onya Crowers
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