Is 20/20 better than ODIs ? A Poll

JASON · 07-07-2006, 11:01 PM

There have been several members on this forum who have expressed opinions that 20/20 is in their opinion better than ODI cricket . In fact some have even suggested 20/20 will replace ODI cricket !!

I personally love ODIs far far better than 20/20 and Tests far far far ....far better than ODIs .
And as far as I can see only in England (actually the United Kingdom

ie England , Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland ) 20/20 seems to have gained some firm hold support , whereas everywhere else it has hardly reached a noticeable foot hold .

In the long term I am also concerned whether Cricket which already has to play second fiddle to other sports in some of these countries (ie to Aussie Rules, Rugby league in Australia, Football and few other sports in the UK , Rugby Union in NZ and probably Football, Golf and Rugby Union in SA -the sports mentioned probably being more popular than Cricket in the respective countries) , will endanger itself by dividing and fragmenting its following for the shorter version of the game between these two and lose its market share to these other sports by promoting 2 shorter versions of the game.

Anyway here is a poll canvassing everyones opinions on which of the 2 shorter versions of the game they prefer .

adharcric · 07-07-2006, 11:07 PM

ODIs, easily.

dontcloseyoureyes · 07-07-2006, 11:39 PM

I dislike both 50/50 and 20/20 equally, though I think 20/20 is more fun to play, and has a better atmosphere.

andyc · 08-07-2006, 01:05 AM

I went this one- ODIs better than 20/20, but like 20/20 to continue

They should do away with 20/20 internationals, though.

FaaipDeOiad · 08-07-2006, 01:06 AM

Not even close. 50 over ODIs by a mile.

edit: I voted for the fourth option, but I don't actually object to 20/20 being played, per se. I simply object to it being given international status and a world cup and so on.

Goughy · 08-07-2006, 01:24 AM

Obviously I voted for 20/20 as ODIs are irrelevant to me and I think they are pointless cricket. I think we are at the dawn of 20/20 cricket and it will continue to grow as people become more accepting. It is a great and challenging form of the game that requires far more than slogging.

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Originally Posted by JASON

There have been several members on this forum who have expressed opinions that 20/20 is in their opinion better than ODI cricket . In fact some have even suggested 20/20 will replace ODI cricket !!

Well its also the only form of the game you get more than 1 man and hid dog watching in SA

Burpey · 08-07-2006, 01:27 AM

ODIs better than 20/20, but like 20/20 to continue.

I enjoy any form of cricket to be honest, but I think ODIs are superior to Twenty20. Also, I think Twenty20 should be confined to the domestic scene with perhaps one Twenty20 International each tour as Australia have done recently.

BoyBrumby · 08-07-2006, 02:37 AM

It possibly may only be the relative freshness of the format, but I far prefer 20/20s just now. ODIs are just so formulaic; the overs between 15-40 are a total snoozefest & contribute little in the way of entertainment, save some commentator or other saying "it's now XX overs since the last boundary, but they are keeping wickets in hand" like some mantra.

20/20 means batters & bowlers both have to be "on" from ball one & does away with the unnecessary filler overs that blight one-dayers.

Langeveldt · 08-07-2006, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Goughy

Well its also the only form of the game you get more than 1 man and hid dog watching in SA

At least the one man and his dog have an ounce of cricketing knowledge to throw around..

ODI's by a mile, not even close and I wouldn't be concerned if suddenly Twenty20 ceased to exist..

Goughy · 08-07-2006, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Langeveldt

At least the one man and his dog have an ounce of cricketing knowledge to throw around.

ODI's by a mile, not even close and I wouldn't be concerned if suddenly Twenty20 ceased to exist..

You really think the ODI crowd do? You are more generous than I am.

The way I see ot, if you want real cricket watch tests, if you want fast paced enjoyment, braai, bikinis and beer then 20/20 is your game.

ODIs have are neither particularly 'real' cricket or entertaining and therefore fails in both regards.

Also where would football be financially if only the most knowledgable went to the games and watched on TV. 20/20 is important in introducing more people and getting more watching on TV and in the grounds and increasing TV revenue.

As long as Test cricket is sacred then Im all for it.

I find ODIs very manufactured with all sorts of rules being introduced and the game being tinkered with because fundamentally the concept is flawed. 20/20 cricket does not hide what it is. ODIs try and masquerade (sp?) as something they are not.

FaaipDeOiad · 08-07-2006, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Goughy

I find ODIs very manufactured with all sorts of rules being introduced and the game being tinkered with because fundamentally the concept is flawed.

And 20/20 then? Where players sit in a dugout and run out onto the pitch to save time while their themesong plays, and bowlers send down opening spells of two overs to them? I don't see how ODI cricket could possibly be any more "manufactured" than that.

James90 · 08-07-2006, 03:32 AM

Twenty20 is great in moderation. I see ODI's as a proper contest so voted for the third option.

Goughy · 08-07-2006, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad

And 20/20 then? Where players sit in a dugout and run out onto the pitch to save time while their themesong plays, and bowlers send down opening spells of two overs to them? I don't see how ODI cricket could possibly be any more "manufactured" than that.

It not manufactured at all. It is full pelt from the start and is genius in its simplicity.

Its about going for it from the start and showing what you have got.

Samuel_Vimes · 08-07-2006, 03:42 AM

Can anyone tell me a good thing about ODIs, instead of saying bad/good things about Twenty20? Because the latter is what most of these threads turn into, while I'm yet to hear a convincing argument for ODIs being anything much more than run-of-the-mill sport that wears down the players.

Goughy · 08-07-2006, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes

Can anyone tell me a good thing about ODIs, instead of saying bad/good things about Twenty20?

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View Poll Results: Is 20/20 better than ODIs ? Poll
20/20 better than ODIs , but like ODIs to continue	11	19.30%
20/20 better than ODIs and would prefer ODIs not played in the distant future.	6	10.53%
ODIs better than 20/20, but like 20/20 to continue	24	42.11%
ODIs better than 20/20 and would prefer 20/20 not played at all .	16	28.07%
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07-07-2006, 11:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
JASON Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: At Work Posts: 7,558	Is 20/20 better than ODIs ? A Poll There have been several members on this forum who have expressed opinions that 20/20 is in their opinion better than ODI cricket . In fact some have even suggested 20/20 will replace ODI cricket !! I personally love ODIs far far better than 20/20 and Tests far far far ....far better than ODIs . And as far as I can see only in England (actually the United Kingdom ie England , Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland ) 20/20 seems to have gained some firm hold support , whereas everywhere else it has hardly reached a noticeable foot hold . In the long term I am also concerned whether Cricket which already has to play second fiddle to other sports in some of these countries (ie to Aussie Rules, Rugby league in Australia, Football and few other sports in the UK , Rugby Union in NZ and probably Football, Golf and Rugby Union in SA -the sports mentioned probably being more popular than Cricket in the respective countries) , will endanger itself by dividing and fragmenting its following for the shorter version of the game between these two and lose its market share to these other sports by promoting 2 shorter versions of the game. Anyway here is a poll canvassing everyones opinions on which of the 2 shorter versions of the game they prefer . Last edited by JASON; 07-07-2006 at 11:08 PM.

07-07-2006, 11:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
dontcloseyoureyes BARNES OUT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WILDCARD, BITCHES Posts: 27,708	I dislike both 50/50 and 20/20 equally, though I think 20/20 is more fun to play, and has a better atmosphere. __________________ The one, the only CW Black Code: 47.3 W Coppinger to Heads Smacked the ball straight into the groin of Iwuajoku who has fallen over, miraculously with the ball still caught in his scrotal area! Out! TO OUR FOREFATHERS

08-07-2006, 01:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
FaaipDeOiad Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 18,682	Not even close. 50 over ODIs by a mile. edit: I voted for the fourth option, but I don't actually object to 20/20 being played, per se. I simply object to it being given international status and a world cup and so on. __________________ I know a place where a royal flush Can never beat a pair

08-07-2006, 02:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	It possibly may only be the relative freshness of the format, but I far prefer 20/20s just now. ODIs are just so formulaic; the overs between 15-40 are a total snoozefest & contribute little in the way of entertainment, save some commentator or other saying "it's now XX overs since the last boundary, but they are keeping wickets in hand" like some mantra. 20/20 means batters & bowlers both have to be "on" from ball one & does away with the unnecessary filler overs that blight one-dayers. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

07-07-2006, 11:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
adharcric International Coach Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 10,898	ODIs, easily.

08-07-2006, 01:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
Burpey Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 7,584	ODIs better than 20/20, but like 20/20 to continue. I enjoy any form of cricket to be honest, but I think ODIs are superior to Twenty20. Also, I think Twenty20 should be confined to the domestic scene with perhaps one Twenty20 International each tour as Australia have done recently.

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