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    All-time Zimbabwe XI

    Now since we have a fair amount of followers of Zimbabwe cricket, and a thread I have always wanted to create, let's name an all-time Zimbabwe XI, and as atribute to Zimbabwe when they had a decent side in the 90's (certaintly compared to the current farce).

    1 - ADR Campbell
    2 - SV Carlise
    3 - GW Flower
    4 - DL Houghton *
    5 - MW Goodwin
    6 - A Flower +
    7 - GJ Whittall
    8 - HH Streak
    9 - PA Strank
    10 - M Mbwanga (or Bryan Strang)
    11 - HH Olongo

    12 - NC Johnson
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    Kevin Arnott
    Grant Flower
    Andy Flower
    David Houghton
    Murray Goodwin
    Duncan Fletcher*
    Tatenda Taibu+
    Heath Streak
    Paul Strang
    Ray Price
    Henry Olonga

    12th Man Peter Rawson

    I only included players who represented Zim and not those who represented Rhodesia in the Curry Cup etc.

    I did not selected Pom Mbangwa because he did not have enough pace. Peter Rawson played for Zim in the eighties and was a very good fast bowler. I think it's a decent side, capable of giving most Test sides a run for thei money, particularly in batting.
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    1. NC Johnson
    2. GW Flower
    3. ADR Campbell
    4. A Flower * +
    5. M Goodwin
    6. D Houghton
    7. Andy Blignaut
    8. Heath Streak
    9. Paul Strang
    10. Ray Price
    11. Henry Olonga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig
    , let's name an all-time Zimbabwe XI, and (certaintly compared to the current farce).

    10 - M Mbwanga (or Bryan Strang)
    Are you seriously talking about Pommie Mbangwa?

    Im guessing you did some of the selection based on stats from short careers.

    Mbangwa would never have made a decent club team and it out of place in the company you mention in the team (he is a decent TV pundit though).

    He opened the bowling and bowled at 65mph (approx 105 kph)
    The same man who got his wickets caught at cover.

    He is deeply ingrained in my memory as the worst Test new ball opening bowler I have seen.
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    Neil Johnson
    Grant Flower
    Murray Goodwin
    Guy Whittall
    Andy Flower
    Graeme Hick
    Duncan Fletcher
    Kevin Curran
    Tatenda Taibu
    Heath Streak
    Paul Strang

    I like the look of this team. Due to the general weakness of Zim bowlers I have gone for the longest batting line-up possible with Andy Blignaut just missing out.

    Hick is included due to being part of Zimbabwes 1983 ICC Trophy squad.

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    I was never a fan of Neil Johnson. An ODI side, certainly, but not for tests. Most Zims disliked him, Houghton especially, because he was very much a mercenary on a passport of convenience. He never wanted to put anything back into Zim cricket and had no passion for Zim at all, unlike Murray who put a lot of effort into coaching kids etc. and genuinely cared about Zim. Arnott is a much better bet as an opener anyway, a typical nerves-of-steel Zimbok grafter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy
    Are you seriously talking about Pommie Mbangwa?

    Im guessing you did some of the selection based on stats from short careers.

    Mbangwa would never have made a decent club team and it out of place in the company you mention in the team (he is a decent TV pundit though).

    He opened the bowling and bowled at 65mph (approx 105 kph)
    The same man who got his wickets caught at cover.

    He is deeply ingrained in my memory as the worst Test new ball opening bowler I have seen.
    I must admit he was a rather random selection with a lack of number 10.

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    1 - ADR Campbell
    2 - SV Carlise
    3 - GW Flower
    4 - DL Houghton *
    5 - MW Goodwin
    6 - A Flower +
    7 - GJ Whittall
    8 - HH Streak
    9 - PA Strank
    10 - R Price
    11 - Bryan Strang

    12 - NC Johnson
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    1. G Flower
    2. A Campbell (c)
    3. M Goodwin
    4. D Houghton
    5. A Flower (wk)
    6. G Whitall
    7. H Streak
    8. P Strang
    9. A Blignaut
    10. R Price
    11. H Olonga

    12th Man: S Carlisle


    ODI
    1. N Johnson
    2. A Campbell (c)
    3. S Carlisle
    4. A Flower (wk)
    5. G Flower
    6. G Whitall
    7. H Streak
    8. E Brandes
    9. P Strang
    10. D Hondo
    11. H Olonga

    12th Man: M Goodwin

    Both sides bowler heavy...though a few of them have test hundreds to their name.

    On reflection, perhaps the XI would be better bringing in batsman for one of the spinners...
    I did the XI based on runs scored in that batting position...
    And the bowlers averages and strike rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy
    Neil Johnson
    Grant Flower
    Murray Goodwin
    Guy Whittall
    Andy Flower
    Graeme Hick
    Duncan Fletcher
    Kevin Curran
    Tatenda Taibu
    Heath Streak
    Paul Strang

    I like the look of this team. Due to the general weakness of Zim bowlers I have gone for the longest batting line-up possible with Andy Blignaut just missing out.

    Hick is included due to being part of Zimbabwes 1983 ICC Trophy squad.
    I'm glad to see that someone remembered Big Dunc.

    btw should Traicos be in the frame for this side?

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    Nice ot see Kevin Curran there.


    My side:

    1. Neil Johnson
    2. Alistair Campbell
    3. Grant Flower
    4. Andy Flower*+
    5. Dave Houghton
    6. Guy Whittall
    7. Duncan Fletcher
    8. Kevin Curran
    9. Heath Streak
    10. Paul Strang
    11. Edo Brandes

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpdavid
    I'm glad to see that someone remembered Big Dunc.

    btw should Traicos be in the frame for this side?
    Fletcher is captain of my team, too.

    Both Strang and Price were better spinners than Traicos, and both were better batsmen than he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubb
    Fletcher is captain of my team, too.

    Both Strang and Price were better spinners than Traicos, and both were better batsmen than he was.
    Fair enough. Just wanted to make sure the old boy wasn't forgotten.



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