Team of the decade (1950's to now)

[aussie]

I had an idea of selecting the Best XI's over various decades starting from the 1950's:

1950's:

1.Len Hutton*
2.Arthur Morris
3.Neil Harvey
4.Everton Weeks
5.Dennis Compton
6.Gary Sobers
7.Keith Miller
8.Godfrey Evans+
9.Ray Lindwall
10.Freddie Trueman
11.Jim Laker

Unlucky to miss out are May,Worrell, Walcott, Lock, Hazare, Bedser, Tayfield

1960's

1.Conrad Hunte
2.Bill Lawry
3.Rohan Kanhai
4.Graeme Pollock
5.Ken Barrington
6.Gary Sobers*
7.Farook Engineer+
8.Allan Davidson
9.Wes Hall
10.Freddie Trueman
11.Lance Gibbs

worthy mentions Dexter, Barlow, Mohammad, Simpson, Goddard, Barlow

1970's

1.Sunil Gavaskar
2.Gordon Greenidge
3.Graeme Pollock
4.Greg Chappell*
5.Viv Richards
6.Ian Botham
7.Rodney Marsh+
8.Andy Roberts
9.Michael Holding
10.Dennis Lillee
11.Dereck Underwood

Worthy mentions Barry Richards, the Indian spin quartet, Llyod, Procter, Barlow, Snow, Abbas

1980's

1.Sunil Gavaskar
2.Gordon Greenidge
3.Zaheer Abbas
4.Greg Chappell
5.Viv Richards
6.Imran Khan*
7.Jeffery Dujon+
8.Richard Hadlee
9.Malcolm Marshall
10.Dennis Lillee
11.Abdul Qadir

worthy mentions Dev, Botham, Garner, Holding, Miandad, Richardson

1990's

1.Mark Taylor*
2.Saeed Anwar
3.Brian Lara
4.Sachin Tendulkar
5.Steve Waugh
6.Inzamam-ul-Haq
7.Ian Healy+
8.Wasim Akram
9.Shane Warne
10.Curtly Ambrose
11.Glenn McGrath

worthy mentions Donald, Pollock, Dravid, Muralitharan, Flower, Cairns

2000's: (to date)

1.Matthew Hayden
2.Virender Sehwag
3.Ricky Ponting
4.Brain Lara*
5.Rahul Dravid
6.Adam Gilchrist+
7.Andrew Flintoff
8.Shane Warne
9.Shoaib Akhtar
10.Muttiah Muralitharan
11.Glenn McGrath

worthy mentions Tendulkar, Gillespie, Langer, Kallis, Inzamam

 

[Matt79]

which of those teams is the best do you think... I'd go for the 1970s

 

[archie mac]

Good effort that

Knott for the Keeper in the 70s, most of the Aussies from that period when picking their all time best put him in front of Marsh.

Taylor was lucky to make the 90s squad I thought, he had a couple of good seasons the best was 1989, maybe his captaincy got him in?

 

[oz_fan]

Very good teams. IMO the best team overall would be the team of the 80's.

 

[a massive zebra]

1950s
L Hutton
CL Walcott
RN Harvey
EDC Weekes
PBH May*
GSA Sobers
KR Miller
TG Evans+
RR Lindwall
JC Laker
FS Trueman

1960s
RB Simpson*
WM Lawry
RB Kanhai
RG Pollock
KF Barrington
GSA Sobers
JM Parks+
AK Davidson
PM Pollock
FS Trueman
DK Underwood

1970s
SM Gavaskar
G Boycott
IVA Richards*
GS Chappell
Javed Miandad
IT Botham
APE Knott+
AME Roberts
MA Holding
DK Lillee
RGD Willis

1980s
SM Gavaskar
CG Greenidge
IVA Richards
Javed Miandad
AR Border
Imran Khan*
RW Marsh+
RJ Hadlee
MD Marshall
J Garner
DK Lillee

1990s
GA Gooch
Saeed Anwar
BC Lara
SR Tendulkar
SR Waugh*
Inzamam-ul-Haq
A Flower+
Wasim Akram
CEL Ambrose
Waqar Younis
AA Donald

2000s
1.ML Hayden
2.V Sehwag
3.R Dravid*
4.RT Ponting
5. KP Pietersen
6.JH Kallis
7.AC Gilchrist+
8.SM Pollock
9.SK Warne
10.M Muralitharan
11.GD McGrath

 

[Blaze]

Martin Crowe in the 80's for me.

 

[oz_fan]

*1000th Post*
1950's
1. Len Hutton *
2. Arthur Morris
3. Neil Harvey
4. Everton Weekes
5. Dennis Compton
6. Garry Sobers
7. Keith Miller
8. Godfrey Evans +
9. Ray Lindwall
10. Fred Trueman
11. Jim Laker

1960's
1. Bob Simpson
2. Bill Lawry
3. Rohan Kanhai
4. Graeme Pollock
5. Ken Barrington
6. Garry Sobers
7. Farook Engineer +
8. Allan Davidson
9. Richie Benaud *
10. Wes Hall
11. Fred Trueman

1970's
1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Gordon Greenidge
3. Viv Richards
4. Greg Chappell
5. Clive Lloyd *
6. Imran Khan
7. Rodney Marsh
8. Ian Botham
9. Michael Holding
10. Andy Roberts
11. Dennis Lillee

1980's
1. Desmond Haynes
2. Gordon Greenidge
3. Viv Richards
4. Greg Chappell
5. Allan Border *
6. Imran Khan
7. Jeffrey Dujon +
8. Richard Hadlee
9. Malcolm Marshall
10. Joel Garner
11. Abdul Qadir

1990's
1. Mark Taylor
2. Saeed Anwar
3. Sachin Tendulkar
4. Brian Lara
5. Steve Waugh *
6. Andy Flower +
7. Shaun Pollock
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Allan Donald

2000's
1. Matt Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky Ponting*
4. Brian Lara
5. Rahul Dravid
6. Jaques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist +
8. Andrew Flintoff
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharin
11. Glenn McGrath

 

[Matt79]

I like most of the teams you listed Oz Fan, but I think Kallis as the third seemer in the 2000s team is leaves the team a bit unbalanced. I'd probably leave out Kallis and pick somebody like Akhtar, Gillespie, Lee or Chaminda Vaas. Apart from Akhtar, they're all ok lower-order bats, so they'd all slot in ok at 9, with Gilchrist and Warne moving up one.

 

[Jono]

2000s
1.ML Hayden
2.V Sehwag
3.R Dravid*
4.RT Ponting
5. KP Pietersen
6.JH Kallis
7.AC Gilchrist+
8.SM Pollock
9.SK Warne
10.M Muralitharan
11.GD McGrath

Pietersen's already done enough in 12 months to outdo all Lara has done from 2000-present?

 

[Beleg]

1950's
1. Len Hutton *
2. Hanif Mohammad
3. Neil Harvey
4. Everton Weekes+
5. Dennis Compton
6. Garry Sobers
7. Frank Worrell
8. Keith Miller
9. Ray Lindwall
10. Fred Trueman
11. Jim Laker

1960's
1. Bob Simpson
2. Bill Lawry
3. Rohan Kanhai
4. Graeme Pollock
5. Ken Barrington
6. Garry Sobers
7. Farook Engineer +
8. Allan Davidson
9. Richie Benaud *
10. Fazal Mahmood
11. Trueman

1970's
1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Gordon Greenidge
3. Viv Richards
4. Greg Chappell
5. Clive Lloyd *
6. Imran Khan
7. Rodney Marsh+
8. Ian Botham
9. Michael Holding
10. Andy Roberts
11. Dennis Lillee

1980's
1. Desmond Haynes
2. Gordon Greenidge
3. Viv Richards
4. Javed Miandad
5. Allan Border *
6. Imran Khan
7. Jeffrey Dujon +
8. Richard Hadlee
9. Malcolm Marshall
10. Joel Garner
11. Abdul Qadir

1990's
1. Gary Kirsten
2. Saeed Anwar
3. Sachin Tendulkar
4. Brian Lara
5. Steve Waugh *
6. Andy Flower +
7. Wasim Akram
8. Shane Warne
9. Waqar Younis
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Allan Donald

2000's
1. Brian Lara
2. Justin Langer
3. Ricky Ponting*
4. Inzamam
5. Rahul Dravid
6. Jaques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist +
8. Andrew Flintoff
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharin
11. Glenn McGrath[/QUOTE]

 

[aussie]

A few minor responses

1950s
L Hutton
CL Walcott
RN Harvey
EDC Weekes
PBH May*
GSA Sobers
KR Miller
TG Evans+
RR Lindwall
JC Laker
FS Trueman

Did Clyde Walcott ever open the batting?, if he did was has record that good to be placed ahead of arguably Australia best ever opener Arthur Morris?

1960s
RB Simpson*
WM Lawry
RB Kanhai
RG Pollock
KF Barrington
GSA Sobers
JM Parks+
AK Davidson
PM Pollock
FS Trueman
DK Underwood

Dont think Underwood could have been ranked a better spinner than Gibbs during the 60's, in the 70's well yes. Also i would have gone for Engineer ahead of Parks ahead during the 60's even though Parks was probably the better glovesman, Engineer the better bat. After all he did play for the World XI vs England in the late 60's.

1970s
SM Gavaskar
G Boycott
IVA Richards*
GS Chappell
Javed Miandad
IT Botham
APE Knott+
AME Roberts
MA Holding
DK Lillee
RGD Willis

Got to disagree with Boycott being ahead of Greenidge & Miandad ahead of Graeme Pollock even though he didn't play any international cricket.

1980s
SM Gavaskar
CG Greenidge
IVA Richards
Javed Miandad
AR Border
Imran Khan*
RW Marsh+
RJ Hadlee
MD Marshall
J Garner
DK Lillee

I would sneak Qadir in here somewhere just to give the side some variety but the though task is which one of those top bowlers to leave out.

1990s
GA Gooch
Saeed Anwar
BC Lara
SR Tendulkar
SR Waugh*
Inzamam-ul-Haq
A Flower+
Wasim Akram
CEL Ambrose
Waqar Younis
AA Donald

As with Qadir would sneak Warne in somewhere amongst these great fast bowlers

2000s
1.ML Hayden
2.V Sehwag
3.R Dravid*
4.RT Ponting
5. KP Pietersen
6.JH Kallis
7.AC Gilchrist+
8.SM Pollock
9.SK Warne
10.M Muralitharan
11.GD McGrath

KP surely can't be ahead of Lara, Kallis vs Flintoff for the all-rounder spot is debatable along with Pollock vs Gillespie/Akhtar as back up to McGrath.

 

[a massive zebra]

Pietersen's already done enough in 12 months to outdo all Lara has done from 2000-present?

I adopted a strict "no one to be selected twice" policy, and Lara is already in the 1990s team.

 

[a massive zebra]

Did Clyde Walcott ever open the batting?, if he did was has record that good to be placed ahead of arguably Australia best ever opener Arthur Morris?

Arthur Morris is indeed one of the most highly rated Australian openers of all time, but this reputation is primarily based on world class performances during the first few years of his career in the 1940s. He never averaged over 45 in any series during the 1950s, as bowlers like Alec Bedser exploited a previously undiscovered weakness against inswing. You are right in suggesting that Clyde Walcott hardly opened but he was just so prolific during the 1950s (with 13 hundreds in 33 matches and an average over 61) that only lunacy could deny him a place.

 

[a massive zebra]

Also i would have gone for Engineer ahead of Parks ahead during the 60's even though Parks was probably the better glovesman, Engineer the better bat. After all he did play for the World XI vs England in the late 60's.

I might give you that one.

 

[a massive zebra]

Dont think Underwood could have been ranked a better spinner than Gibbs during the 60's, in the 70's well yes. .

I think Gibbs was/is overrated. He only took ten wickets in a match twice during a long career, and his strike rate against both England and Australia, even in the 1960s, was well over 80.

I prefer bowlers with a little more penetration, like Underwood, who averaged an unbelievable 16 in the 60s and given the right conditions could run through anyone, such as when he won the Ashes for England after destroying Australia at The Oval in 1968.

 

[a massive zebra]

Will respond to the other comments tomorrow.

 

[archie mac]

like Underwood, who averaged an unbelievable 16 in the 60s and given the right conditions could run through anyone, such as when he won the Ashes for England after destroying Australia at The Oval in 1968.

What was the name of that grass disease?

Fussism? That and the joke that was a certain pitch in 1956 have neither been forgotten or forgiven by us Aussies

 

[Goughy]

Here are my teams.
I have not looked at the other lists (will check to see how similar they are after I have posted).

I have only selected a player for 1 decade. It may not be their 'best decade' as they may not fit into the best team for that time period.

50s
H. Mohammad
Hutton
Walcott
Weekes
May
Harvey
Worrell
Davidson
Laker
Tyson
Bedser

60s
Simpson
Lawry
Barrington
Dexter
Sobers
Walters
Engineer
Trueman
P. Pollock
Underwood
McKenzie

70s
B. Richards
Boycott
G. Chappell
G. Pollock
Lloyd
Botham
Procter
Knott
Lillee
Roberts
Thompson

80s
Gavaskar
Greenidge
V. Richards
Miandad
Vengsarkar
Border
Dujon
Imran
Hadlee
Marshall
Holding

90s
Gooch
Taylor
Lara
Tendulkar
S. Waugh
A. Flower
Wasim
Warne
Donald
Ambrose
Younis

2000s
Hayden
Sehwag
Kallis
Inzamam
Dravid
Ponting
Flintoff
Gilchrist
Murali
Hoggard
McGrath



NOTES
Gavaskar may should be in the 70s but I wanted him in the 80s
Hardest choice was Vengsarkar or Gower in 80s team.

Spinners have been unfortunate. Hard to fit them into the teams of the 80s and 70s.

Quality players who missed out.
Bedi, Gower, Dev, Statham, Hall, Gibbs, Griffith, Snow, Willis, Benaud, Crowe, Hassett, Cowdrey, Compton, Bland, Prasanna, Kanhai, Croft, Walsh, Redpath, Amiss, R. Richardson, Azharuddin, D. Jones, Abbas, Kumble + a number of others

Most controversial selection is probably Hoggard. I included him as I thought a genuine swing bowler would be more effective than guys like Ntini and he is very experienced in operating with a strong battery of quicks.

Going in to this I thought the 90s would be the strongest. However, they look the weakest. I think it comes down to the fact that the batting line-up is short and that I could not bring myself to drop Wasim for a batsman.

IMO the 70s and the 80s look the strongest.

 

[Dravid]

I had an idea of selecting the Best XI's over various decades starting from the 1950's:

1950's:

1.Len Hutton*
2.Arthur Morris
3.Neil Harvey
4.Everton Weeks
5.Dennis Compton
6.Gary Sobers
7.Keith Miller
8.Godfrey Evans+
9.Ray Lindwall
10.Freddie Trueman
11.Jim Laker

Unlucky to miss out are May,Worrell, Walcott, Lock, Hazare, Bedser, Tayfield

1960's

1.Conrad Hunte
2.Bill Lawry
3.Rohan Kanhai
4.Graeme Pollock
5.Ken Barrington
6.Gary Sobers*
7.Farook Engineer+
8.Allan Davidson
9.Wes Hall
10.Freddie Trueman
11.Lance Gibbs

worthy mentions Dexter, Barlow, Mohammad, Simpson, Goddard, Barlow

1970's

1.Sunil Gavaskar
2.Gordon Greenidge
3.Graeme Pollock
4.Greg Chappell*
5.Viv Richards
6.Ian Botham
7.Rodney Marsh+
8.Andy Roberts
9.Michael Holding
10.Dennis Lillee
11.Dereck Underwood

Worthy mentions Barry Richards, the Indian spin quartet, Llyod, Procter, Barlow, Snow, Abbas

1980's

1.Sunil Gavaskar
2.Gordon Greenidge
3.Zaheer Abbas
4.Greg Chappell
5.Viv Richards
6.Imran Khan*
7.Jeffery Dujon+
8.Richard Hadlee
9.Malcolm Marshall
10.Dennis Lillee
11.Abdul Qadir

worthy mentions Dev, Botham, Garner, Holding, Miandad, Richardson

1990's

1.Mark Taylor*
2.Saeed Anwar
3.Brian Lara
4.Sachin Tendulkar
5.Steve Waugh
6.Inzamam-ul-Haq
7.Ian Healy+
8.Wasim Akram
9.Shane Warne
10.Curtly Ambrose
11.Glenn McGrath

worthy mentions Donald, Pollock, Dravid, Muralitharan, Flower, Cairns

2000's: (to date)

1.Matthew Hayden
2.Virender Sehwag
3.Ricky Ponting
4.Brain Lara*
5.Rahul Dravid
6.Adam Gilchrist+
7.Andrew Flintoff
8.Shane Warne
9.Shoaib Akhtar
10.Muttiah Muralitharan
11.Glenn McGrath

worthy mentions Tendulkar, Gillespie, Langer, Kallis, Inzamam

A change I would make is adding Sachin over Sehwag. Sachin has played better In my opinion

 

[age_master]

2000+

M Hayden
V Sehwag
R Ponting
R Dravid
Inzamam
K Pieterson
A Gichrist
A Flintoff
S Warne*
M Muralitharan
G McGrath

Pieterson in for Kallis at number 6 because i like watching him bat more and hes more versatile, and a better fielder. Warne and Murali can bowl a whole stack of overs (and McGrath can bowl long spells) to make up fort no 5th bowler.

Warne is the best captaincy option there for mine.