Best ever medium pacer? - Page 9

Richard · 21-01-2007, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

Around 77-78mph by the end. He was around 83-85 before, so its quite the loss of pace for a guy who is 22 years old.

Same story with Anderson who bowled at 87-88 for his first series or so, and has almost exclusively been 82-83 since.

adharcric · 21-01-2007, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Same story with Anderson who bowled at 87-88 for his first series or so, and has almost exclusively been 82-83 since.

He was going in the high 80s in the tour of India last year IIRC.

Richard · 21-01-2007, 04:10 AM

I said mostly.

He's had the odd spell where he's cranked it back up again.

pup11 · 22-01-2007, 02:08 AM

Glen McGrath my undisputed choice there are times when stats tells only half of the story same with pidge his stats will say how many wickets he took but it won't tell you how many wickets his partners got due to relentless pressure he created and his accuracy is one which might make a bowling machine look poor.

Smudge · 22-01-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

I've spent the afternoon being mullered around Tiverton by a 12 year old.

Some blokes would pay good money for that.

Oh, you mean cricket?

LongHopCassidy · 22-01-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltman

Some blokes would pay good money for that.

Oh, you mean cricket?

The Sean · 23-01-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Uh, uh...

Seriously, how often to you see top-class batsmen simply beaten for pace - late on a stroke simply because of the speed of the delivery.

Almost never.

I can honestly only think of one occasion in my cricket-watching time that I've seen a genuine batsman lose his wicket by being beaten purely and simply by pace - this game here.

And this is completely different to being beaten by change of pace, as many people were by Anderson Roberts' quicker one and many people's slower ones.

No idea how old you are (though your lifelong devotion to United mentioned in another thread gained you a lot of credibility in my eyes

), but I take it you weren't around to see MA Holding's over to Boycott at Bridgetown in 81? I have to admit to only having read about it many times, but I've never seen it, whether live, on tape, or even on YouTube, so if anyone has a link I'd be grateful.

Richard · 24-01-2007, 08:06 AM

That over is reputed to be the "greatest of all-time" (may be over-egging it a bit, but you get the picture). I've seen 3 of the 6 balls.

And if pace was all there was to it, it'd not have been such. The ball was going all over the place, at high speed, and every ball was in the right areas.

morgieb · 13-02-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chris.hinton

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Fusion · 13-02-2008, 08:18 PM

Something's not quite right about this Morgieb account IMO...

Migara · 13-02-2008, 08:54 PM

McGrath is not medium pace. He's bit above it IMO.

best medium pacer in test cricket - Lohmann. No one can beat his record. When considering modern bowlers, Vass is quite special at a pace of 73-78 mph. Vaas was once a bowler who can get to 85mph regularly, but that was about 7-8 years back. He gradually have slown down.

Maharoof is too quick for a medium pacer. Gets to high 80s when on song. Otherwise he is 80-85mph bowler.

Best ODI medium pacer - a toss between Gavin Larsen and Chaminda Vaas.

JBMAC · 14-02-2008, 12:25 AM

Best Medium Pacers

Lohman
Ken Mackay
Doug Walters
Gary Cosier
Garry Gilmour
All of these haved proved Match winners

SJS · 14-02-2008, 12:31 AM

SF Barnes

Migara · 14-02-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JBMAC

Best Medium Pacers
Lohman
Ken Mackay
Doug Walters
Gary Cosier
Garry Gilmour
All of these haved proved Match winners

Gary Gimour, how many matches?

sledger · 14-02-2008, 02:23 AM

Ian Harvey

22-01-2007, 02:08 AM	#124 (permalink)
pup11 International Coach Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: India Posts: 12,134	PIDGE!! Who else? Glen McGrath my undisputed choice there are times when stats tells only half of the story same with pidge his stats will say how many wickets he took but it won't tell you how many wickets his partners got due to relentless pressure he created and his accuracy is one which might make a bowling machine look poor.

13-02-2008, 08:54 PM	#131 (permalink)
Migara International Captain Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colombo, SL Posts: 5,175	McGrath is not medium pace. He's bit above it IMO. best medium pacer in test cricket - Lohmann. No one can beat his record. When considering modern bowlers, Vass is quite special at a pace of 73-78 mph. Vaas was once a bowler who can get to 85mph regularly, but that was about 7-8 years back. He gradually have slown down. Maharoof is too quick for a medium pacer. Gets to high 80s when on song. Otherwise he is 80-85mph bowler. Best ODI medium pacer - a toss between Gavin Larsen and Chaminda Vaas. __________________ Diuretics are used to look good at TV shows I played for 20 years in the Lankan team, I did not have any problems as a Tamil - Muralidaran

14-02-2008, 12:25 AM	#132 (permalink)
JBMAC State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Qld/Australia Posts: 1,304	Best Medium Pacers Lohman Ken Mackay Doug Walters Gary Cosier Garry Gilmour All of these haved proved Match winners __________________ Keep Your Feet on The Ground,Keep Reaching for The Stars!

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Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	That over is reputed to be the "greatest of all-time" (may be over-egging it a bit, but you get the picture). I've seen 3 of the 6 balls. And if pace was all there was to it, it'd not have been such. The ball was going all over the place, at high speed, and every ball was in the right areas.

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