BhupinderSingh
Banned
Do you really understand that when did they made their debuts and when were their speeds first recorded?Some people think that before injury in 1994-5,Waqar was as quick as Thommo if not more.
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Best ever medium pacer?
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JBMAC
State Captain
"Some people" would not had made such a silly statement if they knew the game of Cricket.
I would like to know your source for that statement to judge what "some People" really did know and I know there will be a number of others on this forum who would like to know as well.
Waqar was a good bowler and I never faced him only saw him at Tests in Australia.BUT I have faced JT and let me assure you Waqar was Not as fast as Thommo at any stage of his career.
I look forward to you posting the link or citing the source.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Why should there be a link? He only said "some people". That could mean his uncle Fred and cousin Daisy.
BhupinderSingh
Banned
By 'Some People",I didn't mean any journalists but some longtime cricket followers one of them being on this forum known as C_C.
JBMAC
State Captain
So what "credibility does this poster have?
I have stated my own credentials so it's time to ante up
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neville cardus
International Debutant
Hardly surprising, truth be told.
From what I've heard, C_C's reputation is not up to much. There is probably no more notorious poster on CricketWeb (which, thankfully, he left as I entered). Bhupinder was wise to hoof it. There was no getting out of that self-dug pit.
From what I've heard, C_C's reputation is not up to much. There is probably no more notorious poster on CricketWeb (which, thankfully, he left as I entered). Bhupinder was wise to hoof it. There was no getting out of that self-dug pit.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
Yea, Waqar was rapido when he first came on.
Quote Wiki 'In his youth, he was one of the fastest ever'
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Migara
Cricketer Of The Year
Waqar may ave not been as quick as Thommo, but calling Thommo the quickest that international cricket have produced is a big deal. Roy Gilchrist was teribly quick. Mohammed Akram and Mohammed Zahid were also much quicket than Shoaib. My gut feeling says that Zahid may have been the quickest ever, because he was beating Lara with pace. naver mind his team mates. Very diifucult to find Thompson beating Richards with pace (Richards probably better against quicks than Lara).
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Well... there is certainly one, who has had about 30 or 40 accounts. Fortunately, it seems, he too left (that should be - has given-up trying to flout the rules for the time being) around about the time you became a regular around these parts.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Ah the good old scientific measurement of 'one of'
Waqar was quick and he slowed down but he was never as quick as Shoaib.
BhupinderSingh
Banned
You people think I'm the only one in this world to say things like Waqar was as quick as Thommo,then you should watch this.As pointed out by PhoenixFire earlier,its on some of his biographies even such as on wikipedia that before back injury,he was one of the quickest ever.I never intended to present Waqar as quickest ever as I consider Akhtar & Lee as the quickest bowlers ever and then followed by Thommo,Imran,Waqar,Tyson etc.
I've never had any respect for C_C because he's exremly biased against white people and religions like Christianity,Judaism & Islam.But despite all hated towards him I have always been of the opinion that no one on this forum knows more about Wasim,Waqar,Kumble & Kapil than him.When he was an active poster,he used to describe different achievments of above mentioned players as if he didn't miss even a single ball of their careers.Thats the only reason I mentioned what he once said.
I've never had any respect for C_C because he's exremly biased against white people and religions like Christianity,Judaism & Islam.But despite all hated towards him I have always been of the opinion that no one on this forum knows more about Wasim,Waqar,Kumble & Kapil than him.When he was an active poster,he used to describe different achievments of above mentioned players as if he didn't miss even a single ball of their careers.Thats the only reason I mentioned what he once said.
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BhupinderSingh
Banned
FRAZ is another member who has seen Waqar clocking 95 MPH.Click hereto view the post.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Think you might need to fix that link fella.
BhupinderSingh
Banned
Fixed & thanks for pointing that out.Think you might need to fix that link fella.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
And?
What does that show? A good ball that dipped in late and a bad shot played to it with the batsman off balance. Nice ball but no relevance to being quick.
Doesnt even look as quick or as impressive as this. Posting a clip and unsubstantiated claims means little.
I saw a lot of Waqar and I loved the way he bowled but he wasnt all time fast just fast. As Ive said before, I saw evidence in the early 90s that he was the approx the same pace as Chris Lewis. It was the movement at good pace that was tough to play, rather than just the pace itself.