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    ND would be a complete joke if they were split btw. Yes all the sides could bowl, but their combined batting prowess without their Black Caps sucks enough as it is. Hawke Cup teams could bowl them out if they split.
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    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
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    Entered the CD region at about 12 by the sounds if it. I'll give you it.

    Doug Bracewell follows in his dad's footsteps | Stuff.co.nz

    Having known Williamson and Boult since they first picked up a bat and ball, the 52-year-old was enormously proud of the contribution the pair made to the Black Caps' seven-run win. But they aren't his life's work.

    Doug undoubtedly is, and these days the two tend to resemble a couple of old mates, rather than father and son. The boy certainly had to become a man fast, especially after dad took the academy from its original base at Te Puna, north of Tauranga, down to Masterton's Rathkeale College.

    Brendon and brothers Doug, Mark and John all cut their cricketing teeth in the Tauranga Boys' College first XI, where they played in the local men's competition. All four then moved on to the first-class ranks, with Brendon and John also playing for New Zealand. So as soon as Doug, the younger, was of age dad sent him down the same route.

    "He first started playing premier [club] cricket in the Wairarapa when he was 13 and got his first premier hundred when he was about 14. He was always a good line and length bowler, with a bit of outswing, and pretty nippy for a kid that age," said Bracewell, who has since shifted his academy to just north of Napier.
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    One of the country's most promising young fast bowlers could be at least temporarily lost to New Zealand following a recent incident at an exclusive school.

    Doug Bracewell, the son of former New Zealand fast bowler Brendon Bracewell and nephew of Black Caps coach John Bracewell, was one of two boys expelled from Masterton's private Rathkeale College for attacking sleeping boarders in a dormitory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Isn't he Hawkes Bay?
    Well he is now. Was born in Tauranga and played his junior cricket for ND though.

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    ND would be a complete joke if they were split btw. Yes all the sides could bowl, but their combined batting prowess without their Black Caps sucks enough as it is. Hawke Cup teams could bowl them out if they split.
    A complete joke would be if Wellington or Otago split, a Hamilton or Bay of Plenty team would struggle no doubt but I could see them holding their own from time to time, especially if they had their "ND" players available. We had seven players play test cricket for New Zealand this summer yet still managed to take out the Plunket Shield. The depth ND cricket have at the moment is second to none in this country.
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    Why is Adams being overlooked? Is he still eligible to play for NZ?
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    He's almost 37 and helping Notts out with his Kolpak status, so no, there's no 'play England home and away as a swansong?' chance (as I heard the BBC commentator suggest when I was finding the O'Brien interview to make that video).

    NZ went '140 or nothing!' mad after Bond's breakthrough season, and our domestic pitches in the early 2000s (on which the likes of Tama Canning and Andrew Schwass were killing it) were encouraging everyone to downplay the figures of any line-and-length merchants with virile contempt.

    Also, Adams reminds me a bit of Thierry Henry on CW. Because he's often contrary and sardonic he's never fully embraced. It quickly degenerates into a '...as if I even want to fit in with you losers!' thing. It sounds like it wasn't until he hooked up with guys like Flem and Swann at Notts, guys who really value quirky or mirthful original thinking and independence of mind, that he thought "I can be more or less myself and buy into this team".
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    Would be interesting if Auckland split their side into North Harbour/Northland and Auckland.

    Of their Plunket Shield squad, Brad Cachopa, Neal Parlane and Andre Adams are from across the Bridge. You may get Brad's brothers back as well, which covers a lot of the batting and wicketkeeping as well. Then you take guys from Northland - the Marshalls, Yovich, Wilson, Southee and others I'm missing. Makings of a good side.

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    http://www.blackcaps.co.nz/schedule/...29/series.aspx

    Get the feeling NZC is really struggling with that Kane replacement a few weeks out, they just need too many of their various Test and LO hands on deck for the whole period.

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    "We want the best person for the job and will not limit our search for the right candidate,'' White said. "We are aiming to have the new head coach in place by the end of July but will not be drawn into making self-imposed deadlines.''
    Bull****. Guarantee Buchanan already has a couple of his second rate cronies lined up for the job.

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    Getting to the point where I'd almost let Taylor run the team in conjunction with a specialist bowling and batting coach.

    It isn't ideal, but surely better than getting a new coach every twelve months.

    We could give Buchanan himself the job I suppose. He's the one Wright left over, and he coached the greatest side of all time. There's both "you got us into this mess, get us out of it" and the "you've got the best CV of anyone in the world" aspects to it.

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    The absolute worst choice would be Greg Chappell or Duncan Fletcher.

    So it will definitely be either of those two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    Bull****. Guarantee Buchanan already has a couple of his second rate cronies lined up for the job.
    Buchanan has cronies???

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    No way Buchanan wants the job, he wants to stay back-room enough to say 'hey, it's the coach who has the major influence' and close enough to accept praise for innovation if it comes his way.

    You can almost guarantee Buchanan is going to spring a two-coach method, making him the first to employ it. That's how he rolls. And to be fair, with the schedule, it's not the worst idea.

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