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NZTailender · 30-06-2007, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Perm

I'd have Fleming there, but the gloves would probably go to Ian Smith. McCullum has a very good record though.

TBH have seen bugger all of Smiths keeping, but I generally think McCullum's keeping recently has been superb (obviously better than he started) and after 20+ Tests McCullum has the same amount of centuries and fifties as Smith had after 60+.

Fleming is there because he's our leading run scorer and best captain.

HeathDavisSpeed · 30-06-2007, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NZTailender

Anyway, our all time best test XI?

Bruce Edgar
Adam Parore
Ken Rutherford
Bev Congdon
Mark Greatbatch
Lee Germon (*)
Jock Edwards (+)
Chris Pringle
Ian Butler
Dion Nash
HT Davis

PhoenixFire · 30-06-2007, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed

Bruce Edgar
Adam Parore
Ken Rutherford
Bev Congdon
Mark Greatbatch
Lee Germon (*)
Jock Edwards (+)
Chris Pringle
Ian Butler
Dion Nash
HT Davis

This was in jest right?

HeathDavisSpeed · 30-06-2007, 03:40 AM

What do you mean? Jock Edwards as keeper and then Germon and Parore... well, they'd make pretty good slip catchers. You won't find much better middle orders in the history of test cricket than the trio of Greatbatch - Rutherford - Congdon. Brucey was a great opening bat, and what better bowlers to open up for you than Heath and Ian Butler? Having Dion Nash as first change is just a bonus.

The team is completed by Chris Pringle. A New Zealand team without a dibbly-dobbly seamer that can also bat just isn't a New Zealand team (see also Shane Thomson, Lance Cairns and Shayne O'Connor)

NB. Shayne O'Connor couldn't bat.

PhoenixFire · 30-06-2007, 03:41 AM

What about Glenn Turner

HeathDavisSpeed · 30-06-2007, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

What about Glenn Turner

Nah - he reminds me of a turnip with glasses.

Fiery · 01-07-2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NZTailender

Anyway, our all time best test XI?

1. B Sutcliffe
2. G Turner
3. A Jones
4. M Crowe
5. S Fleming*
6. C Cairns
7. B McCullum+
8. R Hadlee
9. D Vettori
10. S Bond
11. J Cowie

Reid for Fleming
Donnelly for Jones

Days of Grace · 02-07-2007, 06:25 AM

So we've got:

Sutcliffe
Turner
Donnelly
Crowe
Reid (c)
Cairns
McCullum (wk)
Hadlee
Vettori
Bond
Cowie

I might be inclined to stick in Fleming ahead of Reid. Reid was a good all-rounder, but we already have an excellent one in Cairns. Even without Reid, the team would have four very good seam options.

Days of Grace · 02-07-2007, 10:03 PM

I see that on Cricinfo, NZ's summer schedule has been announced. Bangladesh and England to tour, followed by NZ's tour to England in May 2008

NZTailender · 02-07-2007, 10:44 PM

Alright schedule for us, touring SA, Aus and then hosting England and Bangladesh. Not sure about March tests though tbh.

At least we get a good chunk of international matches.

Macka · 03-07-2007, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NZTailender

Alright schedule for us, touring SA, Aus and then hosting England and Bangladesh. Not sure about March tests though tbh.

At least we get a good chunk of international matches.

Yup. No offence to any Sri Lankan fans, but thank Christ we're not playing them this year...

HeathDavisSpeed · 03-07-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Macka

Yup. No offence to any Sri Lankan fans, but thank Christ we're not playing them this year...

Nice one, Macka. Yes, I think the Sri Lankans'll be pretty glad not to have to play tests in NZ for a couple of years!!!

Fiery · 03-07-2007, 03:03 AM

The ch...I mean Murali would have retired by then hopefully

NZTailender · 25-07-2007, 06:58 AM

Looks as though Papps and How will open in South Africa.

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Bracewell, who has secured his job for two more years, believes a priority should be for Wright to work with Jamie How and Michael Papps during the Test tour of South Africa in November. "We are going to have inexperienced openers so I would love to have John for that South African Test series, because that is where we are going to be vulnerable," Bracewell told the Dominion Post

At least they're not middle order players being made to open. But at the same time, Cumming was solid in his last test while How was abysmal. I guess it's a looking to the future thing?

PhoenixFire · 25-07-2007, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiery

The ch...I mean Murali would have retired by then hopefully

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30-06-2007, 03:40 AM	#304 (permalink)
HeathDavisSpeed International Coach Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rummaging through Iain O'Brien's dustbins. Posts: 12,910	What do you mean? Jock Edwards as keeper and then Germon and Parore... well, they'd make pretty good slip catchers. You won't find much better middle orders in the history of test cricket than the trio of Greatbatch - Rutherford - Congdon. Brucey was a great opening bat, and what better bowlers to open up for you than Heath and Ian Butler? Having Dion Nash as first change is just a bonus. The team is completed by Chris Pringle. A New Zealand team without a dibbly-dobbly seamer that can also bat just isn't a New Zealand team (see also Shane Thomson, Lance Cairns and Shayne O'Connor) NB. Shayne O'Connor couldn't bat.

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PhoenixFire International Coach Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bitch please, I'm from West Yorkshire Posts: 14,987	What about Glenn Turner

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Days of Grace International Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Takasaki, Japan Posts: 3,856	So we've got: Sutcliffe Turner Donnelly Crowe Reid (c) Cairns McCullum (wk) Hadlee Vettori Bond Cowie I might be inclined to stick in Fleming ahead of Reid. Reid was a good all-rounder, but we already have an excellent one in Cairns. Even without Reid, the team would have four very good seam options.

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Days of Grace International Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Takasaki, Japan Posts: 3,856	I see that on Cricinfo, NZ's summer schedule has been announced. Bangladesh and England to tour, followed by NZ's tour to England in May 2008

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