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    Who is the latest addition to your All-Time XI

    Most of us probably have an all-time XI fairly firmly set in our minds - I was wondering, if anyone has changed theirs recently, and what prompted them too? Has anyone done something so outstanding in recent years that they've made it onto your list, and if so, at whose expense?

    My eleven is:
    Jack Hobbs
    Sunil Gavaskar
    Don Bradman
    Viv Richards
    Victor Trumper
    Garry Sobers
    Adam Gilchrist
    Shane Warne
    Wasim Akram
    Malcolm Marshall
    Dennis Lillee

    Most of these guys played before I was born, and the most recent inclusions are Warne, and Gilchrist, but they were in my team the first time I sat down and seriously worked it out. Trumper is probably the least secure in the team, so there's probably the biggest chance that a mid-order batsman is the next inclusion. Sachin or Lara were close, along with another half a dozen.
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    Gilchrist, and I'm betting in a few years time Hussey will take Trumper's spot...well in your list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00
    KP....

    Victor Trumper was the poor man's 19th Century version of KP....

    Thats a joke right? Isn't it a bit soon to put KP in an all time anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker
    Thats a joke right? Isn't it a bit soon to put KP in an all time anything?
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    My alltime XI hasnt changed.
    I'd still go with:

    Gavaskar
    Greenidge/Haynes/Langer/Gooch/Boycott
    Bradman
    Viv
    Tendy
    Sobers
    Gillchrist
    Imran
    Marshall
    Murali
    McGrath

    Edit : Gillchrist and Murali have been there for the last 4 years IIRC and i guess you could call them the most recent additions 'relatively speaking'.
    Last edited by C_C; 09-05-2006 at 01:41 PM.

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    My XI would read:

    J Hobbs
    S Gavaskar
    D Bradman*
    G Pollock
    W Hammond
    G Sobers
    A Gilchrist+
    Imran Khan
    M Marshall
    M Muralitharan
    S Barnes

    So I guess Gilchrist must have been the most recent addition.
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    1.Hobbs
    2.Gavaskar
    3.Bradman
    4.Tendulkar
    5.Headley
    6.Sobers
    7.Gilchrist
    8.Warne
    9.Lillee
    10.Marshall
    11Barnes

    Barnes and Headley are recent additions

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    I've noticed that so many of you have guys like Hobbs, Bradman, Pollock, Trumper, etc. in your all-time XIs. I'm pretty sure most of you have never watched them play. So basically these all-time XIs are being made all based on what you've heard and statistics ... which can lie. I'm not saying they're incorrect, but just getting skeptical about it. Even I put Bradman in my all-time XIs without having a clue why he was so great, just because he's "supposed" to be the greatest. I'd like someone to come out and explain why they actually so great .. Hobbs, Bradman, Pollock, Trumper, other guys that have been named.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric
    I've noticed that so many of you have guys like Hobbs, Bradman, Pollock, Trumper, etc. in your all-time XIs. I'm pretty sure most of you have never watched them play. So basically these all-time XIs are being made all based on what you've heard and statistics ... which can lie. I'm not saying they're incorrect, but just getting skeptical about it. Even I put Bradman in my all-time XIs without having a clue why he was so great, just because he's "supposed" to be the greatest. I'd like someone to come out and explain why they actually so great .. Hobbs, Bradman, Pollock, Trumper, other guys that have been named.

    I think Bradman is the greatest simply because the stats he achieved are mindboggling.
    It doesnt matter what era you play in or how the intangiables go - if you got stats like Bradman/Pele/Gretsky/Kasparov etc. , you got genuine claims to be considered 'the greatest of alltime'.

    As per the rest- many people hold them in high regard as not only were most of them early pioneers, there is a lot of favourable commentary on them from the past. I however, dont rate any of those guys very highly. They were either untested extensively in Test cricket or achieved similar standards to many modern-day greats while playing in an amatuer era of psuedo-professionalism and much higher gaps in quality. As such, my view is, the level of play displayed by them ( which i've seen SOME of from old time tapes and BBC shows in the past) is much inferior to the level of play seen since the 60s until maybe the last few years of several great/good bowlers retiring at once. The pro-oldies camp argue that had those oldies been born in the professional era, they would've adapted but i see that as just guessing - it is NEVER a garantee that someone, no-matter how illustrious- would succeed just as well- even with proper training-if the bar is suddenly raised a few magnitudes.

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