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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric View Post
    The point is that Hayden does not belong ahead of Hutton, Gavaskar and Sutcliffe.
    Or several other openers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric View Post
    Hayden does not belong ahead of Hutton, Gavaskar and Sutcliffe ... and yeah, Hayden > Pietersen overall. Pietersen > Hayden eventually, I agree.
    Well, it is MY all-time XI so I do reserve the right for discerning who belongs where - no offense mate.

    And Pietersen being better than Hayden? It's really a running joke now how underrated Hayden is on this site. I don't want to open up a can of worms, but Pietersen will be lucky to be as good as Hayden is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    10 fold? Hayden averages 53 and has almost 8000 Test runs to his name, with 27 centuries...if Pieterson comes anywhere near that, England should count themselves lucky. Even Bradman wasn't '10-fold' better than a guy who averages 53 in Test cricket!

    Frankly, I don't like watching either of them, but Hayden has been an absolutely excellent player for a long time. Pieterson is just getting started...the comparison is ludicrous.
    Maybe I should have put in Nasser Hussain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    Well, it is MY all-time XI so I do reserve the right for discerning who belongs where - no offense mate.
    I don't think he was denying that either.


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    That tenfold statement was a bit silly. I don't mind Hayden myself, rate him ahead of Boycott( who someone stupidly put in a side.

    Hobbs, Richards, Greenidge, Hutton, far ahead of them both imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    That tenfold statement was a bit silly. I don't mind Hayden myself, rate him ahead of Boycott( who someone stupidly put in a side.

    Hobbs, Richards, Greenidge, Hutton, far ahead of them both imo.
    How so?

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    Umm, becuase it means they're ten times better, which is fairly ridiculous on any level, for instance someone averaging five in Test cricket would have to have that five multiplied ten times, which would mean umm an average of a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    Umm, becuase it means they're ten times better, which is fairly ridiculous on any level, for instance someone averaging five in Test cricket would have to have that five multiplied ten times, which would mean umm an average of a lot
    It wasn't meant to mean a literal x10, more a figure to represent a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic
    Well, it is MY all-time XI so I do reserve the right for discerning who belongs where - no offense mate.
    No ****. Are you suggesting that we close every debate on CW simply because we are all entitled to our own opinions?
    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic
    And Pietersen being better than Hayden? It's really a running joke now how underrated Hayden is on this site. I don't want to open up a can of worms, but Pietersen will be lucky to be as good as Hayden is.
    Considering you are the only one on this site who even considered Hayden in an all-time XI, it's fair to say that you might be overrating Hayden just a little. That's besides the point - Hayden is very good but Pietersen may just outperform him in the long run. Certainly doesn't seem very far-fetched considering KP has already fared well against the three greatest bowlers of the modern era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric View Post
    No ****. Are you suggesting that we close every debate on CW simply because we are all entitled to our own opinions?
    Calm down, didn't mean it in a bitchy way.

    No, but I've already stated why I think Hayden holds his own place down. I see Boycott, Trumper, Headley and possibly others (haven't read every post) that are just as contentious as Hayden yet haven't gotten much outcry over. I know I am overrating him a bit. But I see the same in those aforementioned players.

    Do I think he's better than the others? Yes, IMO, he is and maybe in years gone by will be appreciated.

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    Agreed tbh. I had him in my XI til I decided to swap him for Imran (for the extra batting), but to my way of thinking, he's the third best quick bowler of all time - and certainly the best I've seen any amount of cricket from - I saw a bit of Marshall, but I was only a kid.
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