Which International Team has the strongest tail?

[The Maestro]

Test and ODI's

I think that 8 pretty much qualifies as middle order? Unless the number 8 batsman is "a bit krap" that is .......so lets say positions 9, 10 and 11.

Whose is the strongest, taking into consideration the 4 most used players in those spots

 

[GotSpin]

Australia.

 

[Smudge]

Unfortunately, the presence of Martin ruins NZ's chance of being toprated.

If, however, he wasn't picked, and we had a 9,10,11 of Franklin, Mills, Bond, that's not too shabby. All three with FC centuries and Franklin with a FC double ton.

 

[The Maestro]

Australia.

MacGill
Kaspa
Gillespe
McGrath


??


hardly. Even South Africa has a better tail than that

 

[vic_orthdox]

Toss up between SA and NZ for mine. Tail includes 8 and 9, for me, and as such the bottom four for this side will contribute more than most sides.

 

[33/3from3.3]

Gillespie has a double ton and Mcgrath a 50
Mcgill and Kaspa i dont know

They arent the best in technique but good resilience

 

[The Maestro]

Unfortunately, the presence of Martin ruins NZ's chance of being toprated.

If, however, he wasn't picked, and we had a 9,10,11 of Franklin, Mills, Bond, that's not too shabby. All three with FC centuries and Franklin with a FC double ton.

Or if NZ played

9. Vettori
10. Franklin
11. Mills

Which is totally feasible with Bond acting the paper_man and Mills I think unlucky not to be playing the 2nd test

Thats got to be the strongest

 

[The Maestro]

Gillespie has a double ton and Mcgrath a 50
Mcgill and Kaspa i dont know

They arent the best in technique but good resilience

agree they are probably the most stickable

 

[Smudge]

Or if NZ played

9. Vettori
10. Franklin
11. Mills

Which is totally feasible with Bond acting the paper_man and Mills I think unlucky not to be playing the 2nd test

Thats got to be the strongest

Although Vettori now appears to be at 8, since we're playing Oram at 6.

 

[GotSpin]

MacGill
Kaspa
Gillespe
McGrath


??


hardly. Even South Africa has a better tail than that

Errr?

Warne Lee Dizzy Mcgrath?

 

[andyc]

New Zealand and South Africa, easily.

 

[The Maestro]

Errr?

Warne Lee Dizzy Mcgrath?

Oh yeah.....sorry I forgot about that %$#& Lee


Still thats your strongest possible line up, if any of the other possibles are included its weakened a fair bit

 

[The Maestro]

Although Vettori now appears to be at 8, since we're playing Oram at 6.

Thast true ....although hopefully one day Oram can return to bowling full time which means he could bat at 7 and let NZ play an extra batsman. God knows they could use another specialist top order/opener.


On another note SA currently have Nel batting at 9, and he has a test average of 7. Steyn I dont know about but Ntini is terrible.....just a wogging bunny really. And Boje aint that flash in fact I think hes well over rated. Average of around 24?

I know Pollock is out atm but doesnt he sometimes bat 7 and mostly 8 anyway? Cant see why SA are rated as serious contenders. Happy to be educated though

 

[vic_orthdox]

During the games vs. Aus, you'd have Pollock and Boje at 8 + 9 respectively, which is pretty handy.

 

[andyc]

And they can play Hall, who averages a shade under 30.

 

[sirjeremy11]

SA and NZ (when Martin doesn't play - and he shouldn't EVER)

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

MacGill
Kaspa
Gillespe
McGrath


??


hardly. Even South Africa has a better tail than that

Warne
Lee
Gillespie
McGrath

Warne has three or four near centuries in tests, Lee averages 21 and Gillespie has a double century and is probably the hardest tail-ender to dismiss in the world.

I'd say New Zealand is probably better though, especially if Bond is injured and it's Vettori, Franklin and Mills. South Africa is also good when they have both Pollock and Boje in the team.

I'd say it's probably New Zealand first, then Australia, then South Africa.

 

[sirjeremy11]

At one point Zim had quite a good tail, with Ray Price at XI who had scored a first class 100 (though what that means in Zim cricket terms...)

In this match, one could argue that the tail was better than the top order...

http://nz.cricinfo.com/link_to_data...N_AUS/SCORECARDS/ZIM_AUS_T1_09-13OCT2003.html

 

[oz_fan]

SA have the best batsmen in their tail. (Pollock, Boje, Boucher).
The Australian tail bats the most sensibly with the top order (e.g Hussey) to add some runs.

 

[pasag]

SA. But as said Australia has the smartest tail.