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Club or Country?

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Goughy said:
There is no way that statement can be given as fact.

It is a possibility but people get easily carried away and make fatalistic predictions. By 2000 were were supposed to be underwater after the melting of the ice caps, we were only supposed to have enough oil to last until 2015 before decending back to the stone age, we are all supposed to be on the brink of a virtual extinction due to bird flu etc..

The predictions of doommongers dominate because they makes good headlines.

Generally the status quo prevails. No County Cricket club has ceased playing due to financial problems and it is unlikely they will disband and fail to meet their scheduling responsibilities.

An unsuccessful England team would certainly impact cricket across England but there is no reason to get carried away. The system would evolve to deal with the changes.

If England turn into a terrible team it does not sound the the death knell of the CC or the Counties themselves.
You give some examples of fatalistic-predictions that didn't come to pass.
Want me to give some of some that did?
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Goughy said:
It did not happen in South Africa. In fact being out of international cricket strengthened the domestic game and increased its profile.

Since re-admission the domestic game has dramatically declined in importance.
That was South Africa in the 1970s.
This is England in the 2000s.
In any case - it certainly hasn't declined in importance - attendances, maybe, but the importance of developing international cricketers remains the same regardless of anything.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
DanielFullard said:
Indeed.

Richard has a solid point in that the success of the International team has huge impacts on the domestic game but he is getting too carried away trying to proove his ridiculous fatalistic notions of the death of county Cricket. County Cricket has and always will survive regardless of the national team and to say otherwise is laughably foolish
I'd say it's laughably foolish to say that it will survive.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
marc71178 said:
IIRC crowds at domestic cricket are up on 2000 (consistently year on year)

Yet early in the 2000s we were far from successful...
Do we have figures?
Incidentally - aside from against Australia we've been very successful from 2000 onwards.
Indeed, in series such as 2001\02 (India away) and 2003 (South Africa home) the results much bettered expectations.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Richard said:
I'd say it's laughably foolish to say that it will survive.
Well we can all laugh at each other then.

Lets also point fingers and stick our tongues out as well.

Im glad I did not join this forum for intellegent debate but joined to listen to someone who is never wrong and obnoxious at the same time.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
DanielFullard said:
Wasn't it a 10% rise in County Championship attendance last season?
Something like that.

But the point is that a lot of that time there hasn't been an instantly recognisable success to tempt in Joe Public.
 

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