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Indian test squad for West Indies

IqbalJaved

Cricket Spectator
Who would you pick in your squad ?


My 16 Man squad:
Jaffer, Sehwag, Dravid, Kaif, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Dinesh Karthik, Pathan, Powar,
VRV Singh, Munaf Patel, Kumble, Sreesanth, Rp SIngh, Gambhir.
 

nikhil1772

State Vice-Captain
IqbalJaved said:
Who would you pick in your squad ?


My 16 Man squad:
Jaffer, Sehwag, Dravid, Kaif, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Dinesh Karthik, Pathan, Powar,
VRV Singh, Munaf Patel, Kumble, Sreesanth, Rp SIngh, Gambhir.
Agarkar in place of VRV or RP...And why the hell is Dinesh Kartik there?I mean he's pretty good...but we also got a pretty able Keeper in Raina
 

IndianByHeart

U19 Vice-Captain
Sehwag
Jaffer
Dravid(c)
Kaif
Yuvraj
Raina
Dhoni+
Pathan
Munaf
Santh
Kumble

--Harbhajan
--VRV
--Gambhir
--RPS
--Laxman??
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
IqbalJaved said:
My 16 Man squad:
Jaffer, Sehwag, Dravid, Kaif, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Dinesh Karthik, Pathan, Powar,
VRV Singh, Munaf Patel, Kumble, Sreesanth, Rp SIngh, Gambhir.
You've got a good combination, except that if you're picking Dinesh Karthik with the expectation of loads of runs, you'll be disappointed. Munaf Patel is an under-rated batsman, and can come useful as a six-hitter to support the top seven batsmen. Harbhajan may be out of form, but he's still India's second-best bowler, and none of the pacers come close to him, even on supposedly bowler-friendly pitches. Then again, Powar is a good choice– pick a five-man attack of Irfan, Sree/VRV, Munaf, Kumble and Powar, and you will have more run-scoring options despite taking five bowlers. RP Singh is better as a one-day specialist than a Test extra. Another option is Pravin Kumar, who's been more effective than Munaf in the Ranji Trophy, with bat and ball, so he may make the side ahead of Munaf or VR Singh or Agarkar, especially in the forthcoming ODI's.

The starting lineup should have Sehwg and Gambhir opening, unless the pitch is dodgy, in which case Jaffer should open. Dravid, Tendulkar and Yuvraj in the middle-order will be enough, then Dhoni, then Irfan, Munaf and Powar. Irfan and Sreesanth can take the new ball, then Munaf comes in first-change, then Kumble and Powar. Irfan can use the movement through the air, while Sreesanth can attack the batsmen and push them back. Munaf can hold a line and length for some time. Kumble and Powar will be an interesting pair to watch. Ultimately, even if the management take a step backwards and play six batsmen, the top three will have to score heavily, but they will still struggle to take 20 wickets between four bowlers. That is why the bottom five should also be involved in batting.
 
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pug

U19 Vice-Captain
IqbalJaved said:
Who would you pick in your squad ?


My 16 Man squad:
Jaffer, Sehwag, Dravid, Kaif, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Dinesh Karthik, Pathan, Powar,
VRV Singh, Munaf Patel, Kumble, Sreesanth, Rp SIngh, Gambhir.
I have no problems with your squad except I still think Harbhajan might be included. Also, I would give preference to Gambhir and Raina over Jaffer and Kaif respectively.

But among seamers, I'm not so sure. Regardless of whether we take 5 or 4 regular bowlers, we should have 3 seamers. Among them, Pathan would be my first choice since he adds depth to the batting and has his uncanny ability to take wickets early. Munaf, Santh and VRV will have to be rotated. I want to see VRV's performance against england first before giving him the nod before Santh.
 

TIF

U19 Debutant
I would like to see India go in with this combination -

Batsmen:

Sehwag
Jaffer
Dravid
Yuvraj
Kaif
Laxman
Raina
Venugopal Rao

Wicket-Keeper:Dhoni

Spinners:

Harbhajan
Kumble
Ramesh Powar

Pacers:

Irfan Pathan
RP Singh
Sreesanth
Munaf Patel

Only change in this squad of 16 can be - VRV Singh in place of Ramesh Powar. As for having an extra keeper, we have Dravid who can keep.
 

nikhil1772

State Vice-Captain
honestbharani said:
I don't think Raina is a keeper, Nikhil.
I m pretty sure I heard he is...on the stupid Fourth Umpire show on our National channel...but then again it was stupidity on my part that I listened to them and decided to post here w/o double-checking...
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
nikhil1772 said:
I m pretty sure I heard he is...on the stupid Fourth Umpire show on our National channel...but then again it was stupidity on my part that I listened to them and decided to post here w/o double-checking...
Fourth Umpire? No wonder. I'm quite sure the person who said that Raina is a keeper may have branded Harbhajan Singh a left-arm spinner and claimed that Ricky Martin is the Aussie Captain, and also Eddie Murphy is a legspinner from Zimbabwe.

Take my advice. Avoid that commentator.
 

alternative

Cricket Web Content Updater
nikhil1772 said:
I m pretty sure I heard he is...on the stupid Fourth Umpire show on our National channel...but then again it was stupidity on my part that I listened to them and decided to post here w/o double-checking...

hope u aint confused with Robing Uthappa.. as i am pretty sure he is a keeper for Karnataka..
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
alternative said:
hope u aint confused with Robing Uthappa.. as i am pretty sure he is a keeper for Karnataka..
If he's the wicketkeeper for Karnataka, he must have been doing it only occasionally, since their regular wicketkeeper is Thilak Naidu, one-time India prospect. The last thing the Indian team needs is another Deep Dasgupta clone.
 

nikhil1772

State Vice-Captain
alternative said:
hope u aint confused with Robing Uthappa.. as i am pretty sure he is a keeper for Karnataka..
Maybe.but I think I heard Raina,maybe that guy on the show must have said it by mistake too instead of Robin.anyway I m never watching that show again even if my life depended on it.the only reason i watched it was because cable was out and i had to watch the match on dd
 

pug

U19 Vice-Captain
fishyguy said:
I hope this is the tour Windies can finally turn things around.
I would hope not.

Yup, we can do without all these makeshift keepers. Dhoni, or Karthik. Lets not even consider Dravid or like Arjun puts it - deep dasgupta clones.

Although, I would also consider Piyush Chawla, if only for him to gain some experience. maybe give him a match if the occasion rises and let him play besides Kumble.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Suresh Raina CAN NOT keep wickets. Robin Uthappa CAN keep wickets but is not a regular wicketkeeper; besides, he's pretty sharp in the field.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Virender Sehwag
Wasim Jaffer
Rahul Dravid (c)
VVS Laxman
Yuvraj Singh
Mohammad Kaif
Suresh Raina
MS Dhoni+
Anil Kumble (vc)
Harbhajan Singh
Irfan Pathan
Munaf Patel
S Sreesanth
Vikram Singh
RP Singh
16th Member: Dinesh Karthik or Venugopal Rao

***Jaffer over Gambhir***
Jaffer did well enough against England to earn another full series as opener
***Raina over Tendulkar***
It's better not to rush Tendulkar back into action, let him recover and regain his form and fitness first.
***Dhoni over Karthik***
Ideally, I'd like to see both of them in the squad so Dhoni doesn't take his spot for granted, but we need to back Dhoni and let him prove his mettle.
***Bhajji over Powar***
Bhajji seems to finally have regained his form, he should be high on confidence right now.
***VRV over Powar***
We shouldn't have 3 spinners in the squad outside the subcontinent. VRV could really impress here.
***Karthik or Venugopal*** (16th optional member)
Again, Karthik's presence will let Dhoni know that he needs to perform. Venugopal will provide an 8th batsman, which would be nice to have if we go with 6 specialist batsmen. Powar is very good, but he isn't needed as much in this side. Chawla shouldn't be anywhere near this side if Powar isn't in it, he's got PLENTY of time. Tendulkar shouldn't be rushed. Gambhir as a reserve opener isn't required either, Dravid can step in if needed.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Downtime over (I couldn't access the forums an hour ago, it always seems so long), so back to our topic
adharcric said:
***Raina over Tendulkar***
It's better not to rush Tendulkar back into action, let him recover and regain his form and fitness first.
Let's throw this open for debate. That's one side, so the other would be not to rush Raina in when he's not yet ready.
adharcric said:
Bhajji seems to finally have regained his form, he should be high on confidence right now.
Bhajji will get you more wickets, but if you are not looking at playing two frontline spinners abroad, Powar is a good choice as a second spinner because he can also score runs. That said, Munaf Patel has to be involved more in batting.
 

adharcric

International Coach
On Raina ~ I think he is ready, he's shown plenty of maturity in this one-day series and although he is only 19, he has plenty of domestic experience unlike Piyush Chawla, who needs more grooming before making the step up. He's young yes, but he's much more experienced than other 19-year old prospects we've seen.

On Bhajji ~ While Powar is a good batsman, Bhajji has done very well as a batsman lately. I know we'd like to think Powar still remains the better batsman overall, but surely "batting" can't be the reason to keep Harbhajan out ... he's been one of our leading batsmen of late.:laugh:

On Munaf ~ He can definitely blast, but he's far from a "batsman" by the looks of it, really pathetic technique. A potentially dangerous slogger, yes, but I wouldn't count on him consistently resisting good bowling attacks like a Powar, Harbhajan or Kumble can.
 
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