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**Official** Zimbabwe in the West Indies
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superkingdave
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Dave's gonna love this pitch
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And you've seen how much of Dave Mohammed? I only ask because I wish to attain your level of knowledge as to just how he bowls. I mean, it's not like I get to witness his greatness very often.albo97056 said:
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That's some fierce conviction you've got there...albo97056 said:
albo97056
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well, ive only seen higgins bowl in the first match where he was all over the place, so no i didnt have a fierce conviction.
And ive seen a fair bit of mohammed, I saw him bowl in the test series v england at manchester i think it was in 2004 and in the one day game the other day. I think thats enough to see just how good he is and from what ive seen, hes nothing special, just a standard left arm chinaman with little turn. I was just askin because there are so many coments about him on the forum. I'm not saying hes not worth his place, just not anything worrth the fuss.
And ive seen a fair bit of mohammed, I saw him bowl in the test series v england at manchester i think it was in 2004 and in the one day game the other day. I think thats enough to see just how good he is and from what ive seen, hes nothing special, just a standard left arm chinaman with little turn. I was just askin because there are so many coments about him on the forum. I'm not saying hes not worth his place, just not anything worrth the fuss.
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Two matches?? Whoa. *bows...?*albo97056 said:
First off, two matches is not a 'fair bit'. Also worth noting that how he bowled in a Test match in 2004 has nothing to do with how he bowls now.
Second, the fuss isn't entirely serious, but Dave Mohammed has a lot more variety than you give him credit for.
superkingdave
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How come Dave's been dropped today Liam?
Utseya took a pretty awesome catch
Utseya took a pretty awesome catch
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Yet he neither bowled poorly nor would he have bowled the same against India, so it's impossible to judge him in that way until he does.albo97056 said:
I've seen a lot more than one game and I've seen him bowl against various batsmen in various conditions and various match situations. Dave Mohammed may not be international standard yet (I can't say until he plays international cricket) but he's a good bowler.
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Rotation policy. Idiotic rotation policy. I can't see what was the benefit of playing Taylor and Bradshaw ahead of Mohammed and Collymore today. Collymore especially needs match practice and Taylor is already in form, whereas Bradshaw has been playing a fair bit of cricket this year.superkingdave said:
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Gotta say I enjoyed the sixes of Lara. India need to watch out for him, but then again, for some reason, he always seems to be below par against us.
TT Boy
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It is rather unfortunate for Dave Mohammed he looked pretty decent against Zimbabwe not saying a lot I know but he has the regrettable task of ‘competing’ against Chris Gayle, one of the world’s best cricketing misers. Also after seeing Marlon Samuels throw over his arm over a couple of times, he looks like a carbon copy of Gayle, no nonsense, no frills but bloody effective off spin.
Have not seen much of Samuels against the Zimbabweans but looking at his figures he seems to have down the job well. Though I question his usefulness (as a batsman) so low down at six but what both men have over Mohammed is both can hold a better not just competently but effectively.
Have not seen much of Samuels against the Zimbabweans but looking at his figures he seems to have down the job well. Though I question his usefulness (as a batsman) so low down at six but what both men have over Mohammed is both can hold a better not just competently but effectively.
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Performances of Carlton Baugh must be a bonus for the West Indies. His glove work was more impressive than Denesh Ramdin (of late) and unlike Ramdin who after impressing in Australia seems to be having a crisis of not confidence but sanity, with his desire to chuck away his wicket at any opportunity, Baugh's form might be the kick up the *** the kid Ramdin needs.
Also Runako Morton seems to have secured himself not only a berth but his looking like an integral part of the team. Completely bottom handed but I like his fight and desire, he seems to love playing for his country and in a team which is struggling at least the guy as the bulls to stick it out.
The series was a charade of international one day cricket but I will say something positive about the Zimbabweans, some of Kevin Curran’s boys are unbelievable impressive fielders. Prosper Utseya’s catch (the one he made for himself) was out of this world and throughout the series I thought the fielding was good by both sides, Dwayne Smith and Bravo were typically exceptional but even Lara looked fitter and more mobile in the field.
Also Runako Morton seems to have secured himself not only a berth but his looking like an integral part of the team. Completely bottom handed but I like his fight and desire, he seems to love playing for his country and in a team which is struggling at least the guy as the bulls to stick it out.
The series was a charade of international one day cricket but I will say something positive about the Zimbabweans, some of Kevin Curran’s boys are unbelievable impressive fielders. Prosper Utseya’s catch (the one he made for himself) was out of this world and throughout the series I thought the fielding was good by both sides, Dwayne Smith and Bravo were typically exceptional but even Lara looked fitter and more mobile in the field.
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AFAIC, Baugh can play ODI cricket for the moment, but I'd still take Ramdin in Tests. That's mostly because I trust Ramdin's wicketkeeping more, even in his current state of insanity.TT Boy said:
Baugh bats all or nothing though, so it's a risk to have him and Dwayne Smith in the top 7 IMO.
He shouldn't be opening the batting against India though. I'd open with Gayle and Chanderpaul, stick Morton at 3, Lara at 4, Sarwan at 5.TT Boy said:
I've always found Brian Lara an under-rated fielder. He was brilliant in the 2004 CT and in
South Africa on our last tour there. Great hands and surprisingly snappy reactions. He's particularly outstanding at short extra cover and short midwicket. One catch he took off Lance Klusener was almost unbelievable.
More positives out of that series for Zimbabwe than the West Indies IMO.