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Farveez Maharoof - Long term all ronder option?

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
What do you think, do you think that he is the answer to our all rounder problem. Well IMO i think you need someone who is going to average more then in the mid 20s to low 20s with the bat to be a long term #7. Its seem like we are playing an all rounder for the sake of it.

If he played in tandem with another bowling all rounder like Kaushal Lokuarachchi then maybe it could work, but even that seems a bit like, we play him for the sake of it. I think he good enough to make the side as bowler in the future and maybe with the lack of form of Dilhara and the injury to Vaas, that where we should play him. Maybe with Vaas at 8 it could also work, but i don't know. Leaves our lower order looking very weak IMO.

This interview is also worth reading about the situation. It looks like Moody having a big effect on him.

Thoughts?
 

adharcric

International Coach
As long as he's good enough to make the side as a pure batsman or as a pure bowler, he's fine. Personally, I think Maharoof is good enough a bowler.

Tharanga, Jayasuriya, Sangakarra, Jayawardene, Atapattu*, Dilshan, Maharoof, Vaas, Bandara, Malinga, Muralitharan

That's what I would go with, looks fine to me.
 

dinu23

International Debutant
the selectors definitely need to persist with him, especially now since he's doing so well with both bat and ball. if he can just improve his batting a bit more then he wll be our answer to an allrounder.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
As long as he's good enough to make the side as a pure batsman or as a pure bowler, he's fine. Personally, I think Maharoof is good enough a bowler.

Tharanga, Jayasuriya, Sangakarra, Jayawardene, Atapattu*, Dilshan, Maharoof, Vaas, Bandara, Malinga, Muralitharan

That's what I would go with, looks fine to me.
Hmm no Thilan Samaraweera...
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
I haven't seen Mahroof play, but he seems more like a player in Pathan who is a decent bat, but wont mae it to the team as a batsman.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
I would say that having Sangakkara in the top order should allow the number 7 spot to be taken by someone who is more of a batsman than a bowler.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
I'd take Dilshan over Samaraweera ... so unless you'd like to sack Atapattu for good, nope
I think you will find that Jayasuriya might get dropped if they only play six batsmen at full strength. Personally i rather see them play all seven batsmen, but it probably wont happen.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Maharoof's not too bad with the bat, but don't expect him to be a stand-alone performer. He'll be more useful if he has a partner with him, another bowler capable of batting. Lokuarachchi isn't too bad, given some of the other spin options picked before him, though we don't see Chandana or Dharmasena in the uniforms anymore, and he's certainly more effective than the part-timers on a regular basis. He'll be good for ODI's in his role, but in Tests, you need a more effective bowler or batsman. Maybe a recall for Gayan Wijekoon will do, or get back Mirando, supposedly the fastest bowler in SL and effective in the lower order with the bat. That said, hopefully we won't see little Dilhara back again, even in ODI's.

From this angle, what are your comments on Nuwan Zoysa? He may not be as much a run-scoring option as Dilshan, Aviskha, Arnol or Mubarak (not yet) but he'll certainly get more wickets than them.
 
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chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Mirando might be the fastest bowler in Sri Lanka, but really he is a poor man version of Dilhara. If you think Dilhara has some no ball and accuracy problems, you haven't seen anything. Decent lower order slogger though.

The thing with Wijekoon is that he doesn't do enough with either bat or bowl. When it comes to his batting he will get found out by better bowlers at Test level. With his bowling, it hasn't been very effective at A Level, so the chances of it being effective at Test level is unlikely.
 
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Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Not just Dilhara and Mirando, nearly all Lankan bowlers have a no-ball problem and are off the mark. It could be a coaching issue, but Mirando should be in the team ahead of one of those many seamers after Vaas, Zoysa, Maharoof and Dilhara.

Wijekoon has a better FC batting average than Mubarak and severa other specialist batsmen, and also contributes regularly with the ball. If you've seen him in action for a long time, you may have better inputs, but his figures indicate that he's a better all-rounder than other contenders picked, and definitely good enough as the seventh batsman. His bowling may just be enough to support the strikers. But why not Nuwan Zoysa? He's got decent hitting technique and has been a strike bowler for years, so as a striker at seven/eigth with Maharoof for company, he can't be too bad.
 

Autobahn

State 12th Man
marc71178 said:
I would say that having Sangakkara in the top order should allow the number 7 spot to be taken by someone who is more of a batsman than a bowler.
Russel Arnold? I mean he would be more effective on turning pitches and would leave only two pacemen but he certainly fits the bill, i mean how much does he bowl nowadays?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Arjun said:
But why not Nuwan Zoysa? He's got decent hitting technique and has been a strike bowler for years, so as a striker at seven/eigth with Maharoof for company, he can't be too bad.
He also averages a pathetic amount with the bat 8-)
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Autobahn said:
Russel Arnold? I mean he would be more effective on turning pitches and would leave only two pacemen but he certainly fits the bill, i mean how much does he bowl nowadays?
Not very much, couple of overs every five (ODI) games if that.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
marc71178 said:
He also averages a pathetic amount with the bat 8-)
Russel Arnold averages a pathetic amount with the ball, and so does Dilshan, and also Mubarak.........so let's do a reversal.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Yes, have a number 7 who averages 8 and isn't even that good a bowler 8-)

But he has hit 5 whole sixes in his 40 innings so far so must be worth a pick (!)
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Arjun said:
Not just Dilhara and Mirando, nearly all Lankan bowlers have a no-ball problem and are off the mark. It could be a coaching issue, but Mirando should be in the team ahead of one of those many seamers after Vaas, Zoysa, Maharoof and Dilhara.

Wijekoon has a better FC batting average than Mubarak and severa other specialist batsmen, and also contributes regularly with the ball. If you've seen him in action for a long time, you may have better inputs, but his figures indicate that he's a better all-rounder than other contenders picked, and definitely good enough as the seventh batsman. His bowling may just be enough to support the strikers. But why not Nuwan Zoysa? He's got decent hitting technique and has been a strike bowler for years, so as a striker at seven/eigth with Maharoof for company, he can't be too bad.
Wijekoon has good stats, but apparently his technique is not up to scatch to bat at 7. This only what my mates in Sri Lanka say, so im going by secondary info, but he batted below Vaas in the Tests he played. So i would say that both Maharoof and Vaas have better techniques and if they played in the same side he would bat below both of them. Thats the big thing with most these all rounder option, there not really that much better then Vaas with the bat, so whats the point in playing them.

With Mirando his got pace and nothing else. You don't make sides just cus your the fastest bowler in the country, especially when you only bowl mid 140s. He wouldn't hurry up most international batsmen.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
if maharoof is an all rounder then i'm God.
seriously if you want a better bowler why not pick ruchira perera who impressed everyone with his performances in the VB series and in NZ and can hardly be classified as a failure from his most recent test performances.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
tooextracool said:
if maharoof is an all rounder then i'm God.
seriously if you want a better bowler why not pick ruchira perera who impressed everyone with his performances in the VB series and in NZ and can hardly be classified as a failure from his most recent test performances.
Not only is Perera always looking like he is one game away from being called for chucking, he can not bowl a consistent line or length, his far to erratic to succeed at test level. Also his not an all-rounder so he can not replace Maharoof at seven. You only have to look at their career statistics or they recent performances to see who the better bowler is.
 

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