I don't - AND you called me Einstein yesterday.Richard said:Anyone who doesn't think Rahul Dravid has accomplished more than any other batsman of the 1990s and 2000s is a dunce of the highest order.
sorry..I must be a dunce of the highest order...because I dont think Dravid has accomplished more than say Tendulkar has!!!Richard said:Anyone who doesn't think Rahul Dravid has accomplished more than any other batsman of the 1990s and 2000s is a dunce of the highest order.
Dravid has accomplished nowhere near as much as Lara or Tendulkar or even Ponting.Richard said:Anyone who doesn't think Rahul Dravid has accomplished more than any other batsman of the 1990s and 2000s is a dunce of the highest order.
The question mark over Dravid, for me, is that he has never really done all that well when both McGrath and Warne have been in the Aussie attack. His average, when those two have been present, is fairly small. Having said that, he's still a magnificent player. I wouldn't put him in the class of Tendulkar and Lara in overall career comparisons. I do think though that he is equal with Ponting and Kallis as the best player at this moment.oz_fan said:Dravid has accomplished nowhere near as much as Lara or Tendulkar or even Ponting.
Lara -Highest test and first class score, leading test run scorer
Tendulkar - Most test centuries
Ponting - Future leading run scorer and future player with most test centuries
Dravid - ?
Richard said:Anyone who doesn't think Rahul Dravid has accomplished more than any other batsman of the 1990s and 2000s is a dunce of the highest order.
Lara vs Australia - 52.12 average 9 hundreds 11 fiftieshowardj said:The question mark over Dravid, for me, is that he has never really done all that well when both McGrath and Warne have been in the Aussie attack. His average, when those two have been present, is fairly small. Having said that, he's still a magnificent player. I wouldn't put him in the class of Tendulkar and Lara in overall career comparisons. I do think though that he is equal with Ponting and Kallis as the best player at this moment.
In case you didn't realise, Ponting hasn't actually achieved those things you've mentioned...oz_fan said:Dravid has accomplished nowhere near as much as Lara or Tendulkar or even Ponting.
Lara -Highest test and first class score, leading test run scorer
Tendulkar - Most test centuries
Ponting - Future leading run scorer and future player with most test centuries
Dravid - ?
hence the fact that he said the word "future"Dasa said:In case you didn't realise, Ponting hasn't actually achieved those things you've mentioned...
I know but its pretty likely he'll end up at least with the most test centuries.Dasa said:In case you didn't realise, Ponting hasn't actually achieved those things you've mentioned...
..but he put them under accomplishments. They're clearly not accomplishments if he hasn't done them yet! Thus, it's an utterly stupid reason to rate Ponting higher than Dravid. If you want to make a case from other reasons, that's fine, but rating one higher because he might in the future accomplish something is ridiculous.Slats4ever said:hence the fact that he said the word "future"
Future isn't "accomplished." It's "will accomplish", or in Ponting's case "might accomplish"oz_fan said:Dravid has accomplished nowhere near as much as Lara or Tendulkar or even Ponting.
...blah blah blah...
Ponting - Future leading run scorer and future player with most test centuries
Likely. Not sewn on. Go and edit to say "possible future..."oz_fan said:I know but its pretty likely he'll end up at least with the most test centuries.
No. After all, it's only Richard. He supports Yorkshire.telsor said:Another Dunce of the highest order here. ( is it wrong to feel pride at that? )
As I said mate, it's when McGrath and Warne have been missing that inflates Dravid's average versus Australia.oz_fan said:Dravid vs Australia - 51.03 average 2 hundreds 8 fifties
Ponting's got a great average against Australia with McGrath and Warne as well. Oh waithowardj said:As I said mate, it's when McGrath and Warne have been missing that inflates Dravid's average versus Australia.