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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltman
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    Fazheer Mohammad? (or something like that).
    Fazir?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltman
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    Fazheer Mohammad? (or something like that).
    Yep, that's the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltman
    James,

    Fazheer Mohammad? (or something like that).
    Yes he was on Aust. radio for the last tour by the Windies. Skull called him Faz, not a bad commentator
    You know it makes sense.

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    Unfortunatly, I was in the area for about a month, just last month. And, I can tell you, most people are much more interested in Basketball than cricket these days.

    And why not? The top basketball stars can make $20-$30 million per year in salary alone, not counting endoresments. Even a backup player in the NBA can make as much as a Brian Lara.

    Add to that, Basketball is more glamorous. Kids watch cricket stars toiling away for 8 hours a day, and on the other hand watch basketball stars hit slam dunks, drive expensive cars and singing rap songs in their free time. There is more money, more advertising, and more *** appeal in the NBA/NFL then there is in cricket. Basketball is about fun, cricket is about discipline.

    When I went over there, I naturally asked people about cricket. About half of them barely knew the rules, and most of them couldn't name anyone besides Lara, but they could name all the starters and backups of their favorite NBA team.

    From my limited experience, its a slowly but surely dying game in the Carribean. I predict that in fifteen to twenty years, there will be serious questions as to the feasability of West Indies being able to stay a Test nation.

    Whether we like it or not, Cricket is a shrinking sport. The collapse is slow and though standing from within the heart of the subcontinent it may look impregnable, the edges are definatly rotting.
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    Will the West Indies ever rise again?

    Of course they will. Led by the mighty Lara they will rise in unity against the salary structure for players since it hasn't been revised for last 37 days and doesnt reward near wins, near centuries, near fifties, near double digits, near catches....

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    i would like them to but i dont reckon itll happen for a while
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    It seems the soccer/basketball arguement keeps getting brought up but is cricket the top sport in Australia/SA or England either. I mean in Australia we have the AFL, NRL and four Super 14's team paying hundreds of players a good salary, better than that of a state cricketer while the A-league and NBL would pay pretty similar to first-class cricket and yet we have no problem attracting players. Really from what ive seen its more down to a lack of quality facilities, poor coaching and shambolic behaviour at board level. Players like Gayle, Sarwan, Bravo and Ramdin demonstrate the talent is still there for mine and just needs the right conditions in which to grow. The ICC needs to start campaigning the established cricket boards to help pour cash into the poorer and developing nations as surely last years ashes series shows the public are still willing to turn up and watch test cricket if its of a high quality.

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    I agree Emcee. I'm not buying this basketball excuse. Many other nations have rival sports. Cricket is far from the most popular sport in England, but its still doing well enough.

    Plus, back in the 80s basketball still paid very well, how come it wasn't the number 1 sport then? Its the poor management and facilities IMO. WI cricket just isn't being run correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    I struggled to find a cricket pitch in Jamaica, it certainly isn't what the youngsters were playing..

    When I tried getting a bus to the Sabina park test, most people didn't seem that interested, half didn't even know what was going on there.. Not the characteristics of a flourishing cricketing nation
    thats true when i was their in 2004 it was mainly the English supporters who were rolling up to the gates during that test. I saw a lot of football being played though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    Let's hope that WC2007 stimulates some enthusiasm amongst the kids.
    for the sake of their cricket lets hope West Indies does fairly well in the tournament

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    Of course they will. Australia did, England are, etc. etc. Sooner or later they will, although they will need to sort out some internal problems like others have said.
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    Only a bunch of convicts having been beaten 3-0 and gone 9 tests without a win and won just 1 in 11 against England could go into the home series saying they will win. England will win in Australia again this winter as they are a better side which they have shown this summer. 3-0 doesn't lie girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker
    Unfortunatly, I was in the area for about a month, just last month. And, I can tell you, most people are much more interested in Basketball than cricket these days.

    And why not? The top basketball stars can make $20-$30 million per year in salary alone, not counting endoresments. Even a backup player in the NBA can make as much as a Brian Lara.

    Add to that, Basketball is more glamorous. Kids watch cricket stars toiling away for 8 hours a day, and on the other hand watch basketball stars hit slam dunks, drive expensive cars and singing rap songs in their free time. There is more money, more advertising, and more *** appeal in the NBA/NFL then there is in cricket. Basketball is about fun, cricket is about discipline.

    When I went over there, I naturally asked people about cricket. About half of them barely knew the rules, and most of them couldn't name anyone besides Lara, but they could name all the starters and backups of their favorite NBA team.

    From my limited experience, its a slowly but surely dying game in the Carribean. I predict that in fifteen to twenty years, there will be serious questions as to the feasability of West Indies being able to stay a Test nation.

    Whether we like it or not, Cricket is a shrinking sport. The collapse is slow and though standing from within the heart of the subcontinent it may look impregnable, the edges are definatly rotting.
    I find it really sad that you think its all about money..... and you obviously agree with it aswell as you said "And why not?"

    Cricket is *not* the most popular sport in New Zealand.. Australia... South Africa... or England..... yet we do fine.... our cricket players get paid less than alot of Super 14 players... and i imagine far far less than being a All Black....

    The problem with the WI is a internal one.. they need to just get a whole new lot running the show... which sadly imho wont happen any time soon

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    I don't buy the stuff about basketball taking over etc.

    Look at the population of NZ, look at how low our player numbers are compared to the rest of the world, yet we still compete with the rest of the cricketing world and have some success.

    It is all in the management and inferstructure IMO...

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    And as for claims of cricket dying out world over.. Thats rubbish!
    Cricket's here to stay.. and from a global perspective, growing from strength to strength..
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    Quote Originally Posted by chekmeout
    And as for claims of cricket dying out world over.. Thats rubbish!
    Cricket's here to stay.. and from a global perspective, growing from strength to strength..

    Agree. And will continue to grow with such countries as China entering the fray.

    Probably been mentioned but this is an article talking about cricket in China

    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/...191849511.html

    Plus, Basketball is an American sport, and slowly and surely America will lose its global influence meaning that Basketball will no longer be as popular.
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