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    Who are the most important players in each side?

    The absence of four regulars from the English side on the current tour to India brought this question to my mind: who are the most crucial & invaluable players in each team at the moment? In another sense, who are the players that teams depend on the most today? For example, losing Flintoff would've been a far more deadly blow to England than losing Trescothick.

    India ~ 1 Dravid ... 2 Kumble ... 3 Pathan
    England ~ 1 Flintoff ... 2 Pietersen ... 3 Trescothick/Jones/Vaughan (English fans?)
    Australia ~ 1 Warne ... 2 McGrath ... 3 Ponting
    Pakistan ~ 1 Inzamam ... 2 Akhtar ... 3 Akmal
    Sri Lanka ~ 1 Muralitharan ... 2 Vaas ... 3 Sangakarra

    I'll stop there for now. I know there will be plenty of disagreement. Your thoughts?

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    New Zealand-- 1. Bond... 2. Vettori... 3. Fleming? Not entirely sure.
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    England: 1.....Flintoff - Obvious really, consistantly the best performaner with both bat and ball 2.....Trescothick - Just edges out Pieterson imo. Losing him for this series has been a real blow and our batting has struggled for it. 3.....Pieterson - Great player to have in the squad and has been a fantastic addition to the team. Vaughan is close behind, and so is Steve Harmison.

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    Flintoff aside I think Jones is out most valuable player at the moment. Vaughan's time looks up, so I'd put KP third.
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    For Australia I'd have McGrath ahead of Warne. The team seems to lose a lot more without McGrath in there.

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    New Zealand - 1) Bond, 2) Vettori, 3) Astle
    Bond, as proven in this last Test, really wins matches for the Kiwis. Vettori is the glue that holds New Zealand together, he`s awesome. And Astle is their most consistent batsman IMO.

    Australia - 1) Warne, 2) McGrath, 3) Ponting
    Pidge is close to being number one, but Warne is just so amazing. Any other replacement is unworthy, and The Ashes showed how much we needed him. Of course, it also showed how much we needed McGrath, but Warne kept us in it. And Ponting just demonstrates his authority every game.
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    I'd agree with Bond, Astle & Vettori.

    Fleming doesn't seem to turn up to a game often enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasa
    For Australia I'd have McGrath ahead of Warne. The team seems to lose a lot more without McGrath in there.
    Furthermore, there's such a huge gap between McGrath and whoever replaces him. By contrast, the gap between Warne and his replacement (MacGill) is decidedly smaller. Not to say that Warne is not invaluable, though.

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    IMO

    Australia = McGrath, Warne and Ponting
    England = Flintoff, S Jones and KP
    NZ = Bond, Vettori and Astle
    WI = Lara , Gayle and Chandrapaul
    India = Dravid, Kumble and Sachin (just his presence makes the difference)
    Pakistan = Inzi, Shoaib and Mohammed Yousef
    Sri Lanka = Murali, Vaas and Jayasuriya
    Bangladesh = Ashraful, Mortaza and Bashar
    South Africa = Kallis, Pollock and smith
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    England - Flintoff, Trescothick, S Jones
    Australia - Warne, McGrath, Gilchrist (big call putting him ahead of Ponting I know)
    India - Dravid, Kumble, Sehwag
    Pakistan - Inzamam, Akhtar, Afridi
    Sri Lanka - Muralitharan, Vaas, Sangakkara
    New Zealand - Bond, Vettori, Fleming
    West Indies - Lara, Bravo, Chanderpaul
    South Africa - Kallis, Smith, Pollock
    Zimbabwe - anyone with any international experience
    Bangladesh - Ashraful, Bashar, Mortaza

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney Rubble
    Australia - Warne, McGrath, Gilchrist (big call putting him ahead of Ponting I know)
    That's a good call. The Ashes demonstrated how important Gilchrist (in good form) is to Australia - the English bowlers never let him get away and counter-attack as he does when early wickets fall.

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    I shall have a crack. These are for tests I'm assuming.

    India - Kumble, Dravid, Sehwag

    Kumble is a more valuable member to the Indian team IMo, and I know that's a huge call but I think whilst Dravid is clearly our best batsman, we do have other very good batsman in the team. Whereas whilst Harbhajan is a good spinner and bowler in general, (forgetting for a minute he is out of form) he doesn't add what Kumble adds to the team. Not even close actually, whereas Sehwag has performed extremely well at times, and Sachin, Yuvraj, Dhoni and Pathan have also contributed at tiems when Dravid has failed. When Dravid is out of form or fails, the team may be weaker but its not as weak as a Kumble who isn't bowling well. If that happens, India doesn't even look like taking 20 wickets in a match.

    England - Flintoff, Trescothick, S Jones
    Australia - McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist (Agree with Barney, great call)
    Pakistan - Inzamam, Akhtar, Akmal
    Sri Lanka - Muralitharan, Vaas, Sangakkara
    New Zealand - Bond, Vettori, Astle
    West Indies - Lara, Bravo, Chanderpaul
    South Africa - Kallis, Pollock, Smith
    Zimbabwe - No idea.
    Bangladesh - Ashraful, Bashar, Mortaza
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    England - Flintoff, Trescothick, S Jones
    I'd have those as well.

    Trescothick is the rock around which the top of the order is based, Flintoff is obvious, and Jones is the bowler most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    I'd have those as well.

    Trescothick is the rock around which the top of the order is based, Flintoff is obvious, and Jones is the bowler most likely.
    Exactly the reasons I had those three down as well.

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    West Indies - Bravo, Bradshaw, Ramdin, Chanderpaul.

    Contrary to popular belief, at this stage, Brian Lara is not the most important player in the West Indies team. He has probably a year left before he calls it a day, and the West Indies need to learn without the cushion of knowing he's still to bat.

    When he was out for a first-baller in the first Test against New Zealand, I was really hoping that the West Indies could finish the deal without him and validate all the hard work that came before.

    The West Indies played their most competitive overseas Test match in a very long time, and they did so with 5 runs from Lara. That's a very good sign.
    Sreesanth said, "Next ball he was beaten and I said, 'is this the King Charles Lara? Who is this impostor, moving around nervously? I should have kept my mouth shut for the next ball - mind you, it was a length ball - Lara just pulled it over the church beyond the boundary! He is a true legend."


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