Somerset Sign Nixon McLean for 2003

[Rik]

Praising McLean like hell??? All I said was that he had a good FC record which was why he was attractive to an English county, he's proven. And I've looked through the thread and not once did I say McLean was the best bowler or praise him for that matter, I'm sure if you read through it you'll find that too. I only said McLean was more attractive to a county, never that he was a better bowler in tests!

Errrm...chill!

[Edited on 11/10/2002 by Rik]

 

[nehrafan]

Originally posted by Rik
Praising McLean like hell??? All I said was that he had a good FC record which was why he was attractive to an English county, he's proven. And I've looked through the thread and not once did I say McLean was the best bowler or praise him for that matter, I'm sure if you read through it you'll find that too. I only said McLean was more attractive to a county, never that he was a better bowler in tests!

I think we all agree on his point, Mclean might be doing well at domestic level BUT is a failure at test level, as his average suggest, he will probably never get a chance to open an attack for the WI again!

 

[V Reddy]

I agree with Rik about Yohannan . I will definately assure that he will not play test cricket again. Nehrafan look at his Ranji trophy record. I played him in a local league game in Hyderabad and his figures were 1 for 80 of 20 odd overs. There are much much better Fast bowlers coming through in India than him.

 

[V Reddy]

I also would like to say a word about Nehra. He was nowhere near his best in ENGLAND. Please have a look at his bowling in WI AND ENG. He just didn't swing a ball in ENG. The same happened with VAAS. I just hope that he regains that swing.

 

[warrioryohannan]

Originally posted by vishnureddy
I agree with Rik about Yohannan . I will definately assure that he will not play test cricket again. Nehrafan look at his Ranji trophy record. I played him in a local league game in Hyderabad and his figures were 1 for 80 of 20 odd overs. There are much much better Fast bowlers coming through in India than him.

And wo exactly are u? Indian CB chief selector???? So much so for ur assurances.
Someone as good as Gavaskar have described Tinu Yohannan as a very good propect and have been in favour of Tinu been played in test matches!!

A bowler is never judge by a single performance, thats just plain stupidity

 

[marc71178]

Just because some disagrees with you, you can't ask who he is?

For the record Yohannen may play more Tests, but that is more about the lack of quality Indian pacers than his own ability.

I wouldn't mind betting that if Nixon McLean were Indian, he'd be in the team, and he'd also have a much better average than he currently has (as he won't be supporting a couple of reasonably useful bowlers who've recently retired)

 

[Rik]

Has anyone noticed yet that Nehra has actually got an average only slightly more than Zaheer? And Zaheer is supposed to be a really impressive bowler? Actually these 2 average not much less than Nixon McLean!

Ashish Nehra: 10 Tests 31 Wickets at 39.12
Zaheer Khan: 21 Tests 58 Wickets at 38.62
Nixon McLean: 19 Tests 44 Wickets at 42.56

Hmmmmm maybe we should stop bashing poor Nixon?

 

[warrioryohannan]

Originally posted by marc71178
Just because some disagrees with you, you can't ask who he is?

Thats foolish! It has nothing with DISAGREEMENT, the fact that Yohannan is in the 16 member squad and has impressed the selectors means that he will get chance in future!

[For the record Yohannen may play more Tests, but that is more about the lack of quality Indian pacers than his own ability.

I wouldn't mind betting that if Nixon McLean were Indian, he'd be in the team, and he'd also have a much better average than he currently has (as he won't be supporting a couple of reasonably useful bowlers who've recently retired)

Sorry, McLean would never make it to the Indian team.Khan is far better than McLean and he's being paired with Nath.India always goes with 2 spinners so there isn't any place for a third seamer!

 

[warrioryohannan]

Originally posted by Rik
Has anyone noticed yet that Nehra has actually got an average only slightly more than Zaheer? And Zaheer is supposed to be a really impressive bowler? Actually these 2 average not much less than Nixon McLean!

Ashish Nehra: 10 Tests 31 Wickets at 39.12
Zaheer Khan: 21 Tests 58 Wickets at 38.62
Nixon McLean: 19 Tests 44 Wickets at 42.56

Hmmmmm maybe we should stop bashing poor Nixon?

For dummies who judge a young cricketer purely by his average.Ntini has an average of 37.07!! that is just better than that of Khan AND Ntini is the leading Pacer of SA team, a team that is reknowned for its fast bowlers!!

 

[Rik]

For the record I think Nitini is crap and only picked because of his colour

 

[warrioryohannan]

Originally posted by Rik
For the record I think Nitini is crap and only picked because of his colour

LL , oh yeah sure he's crap, i guess he is required to share the new ball with Pollock too just coz of his color.

:frog:

 

[marc71178]

For dummies who judge a young cricketer purely by his average.Ntini has an average of 37.07!! that is just better than that of Khan AND Ntini is the leading Pacer of SA team, a team that is reknowned for its fast bowlers!!

Erm, Pollock?

 

[V Reddy]

See Yohannan has been dropped from the squad and when they tour Newzealand there also he will not be picked in the squad. He has an average of around 40 in Ranji Trophy. And also u may say that he plays on flat tracks. Every bowler will be good when he plays in conditions known to him. You can see the records of Kapil, Shoiab , Srinath in Sub continent and away.

 

[V Reddy]

Tinu Yohannan

TESTS
(including 11/12/2001)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 2 2 2 5 3* - 23.80 0 0 1 0

O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 56 8 213 4 53.25 2-56 0 0 84.0 3.80

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 11/07/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 3 2 2 7 5* - 63.63 0 0 0 0

O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 20 1 122 5 24.40 3-33 0 0 24.0 6.10

FIRST-CLASS
(1999/00 - 2002/03; last updated 15/10/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 18 16 11 54 21* 10.80 0 0 9 0

O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 483.3 104 1617 40 40.42 6-117 2 0 72.5 3.34

LIST A LIMITED OVERS
(1999/00 - 2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 20 12 8 44 11* 11.00 0 0 5 0

O R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 162.5 778 25 31.12 3-33 0 0 39.0 4.77

This does not include his poor performances in England.

 

[Tim]

Those figures confuse me as to why India picked him. Surely there are better rookies about that this guy.

 

[V Reddy]

I don't know how they picked him too. There was not much talk of him before he was selected also.

 

[warrioryohannan]

Originally posted by vishnureddy
See Yohannan has been dropped from the squad and when they tour Newzealand there also he will not be picked in the squad. He has an average of around 40 in Ranji Trophy. And also u may say that he plays on flat tracks. Every bowler will be good when he plays in conditions known to him. You can see the records of Kapil, Shoiab , Srinath in Sub continent and away.

First of all Tinu has been dropped from the Squad coz India are playing on home pitches, which are made for the spinners.Also, Nath is back making it imposibble for a third pacer to be in the team.

Secondarily, I never claimed Tinu is as good a bowler as Akhter or Kapil BUT now that u have come up with domestic matches stats i would like to point out that Waqar, Mohd Zahid, Sami and Waseem Akram had very ordinary stats at domestic level yet they went on and became great bowlers

 

[marc71178]

a) Waqar and Wasim didn't have poor stats.
b) Sami is by no stretch of the imagination a "great"
c) Who is Zahid? is it a typo?

 

[V Reddy]

Wasim Akram

TESTS
(including 09/01/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 104 147 19 2898 257* 22.64 3 7 44 0

O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 3771.1 871 9779 414 23.62 7-119 25 5 54.6 2.59

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 12/09/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 343 270 51 3564 86 16.27 88.08 0 6 87 0

O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 2926.3 231 11411 479 23.82 5-15 16 5 36.6 3.89

FIRST-CLASS
(1984/85 - 2001/02)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 252 348 39 7106 257* 22.99 7 24 97 0

O R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 8212 22046 1022 21.57 8-30 70 16 48.2 2.68

LIST A LIMITED OVERS
(1984/85 - 2002/03; last updated 16/10/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 570 450 90 6730 89* 18.69 0 17 145 0

O R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 4763 18590 841 22.10 5-10 33 10 33.9 3.90


Waqar Younis



Waqar Younis Maitla
Born: 16 November 1971, Vehari, Punjab
Major Teams: Multan Division Cricket Association; Multan, United Bank Limited, Surrey, Glamorgan, Karachi Cricket Association, Rawalpindi Cricket Association, Redco Pakistan Ltd, Lahore Cricket Association, National Bank of Pakistan, Pakistan.
Known As: Waqar Younis
Pronounced: Waqar Younis
Batting Style: Right Hand Bat
Bowling Style: Right Arm Fast


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Test Debut: Pakistan v India at Karachi, 1st Test, 1989/90
Latest Test: Pakistan v Australia at Sharjah, 2nd Test, 2002/03

ODI Debut: Pakistan v West Indies at Sharjah, Champions Trophy, 1989/90
Latest ODI: Pakistan v Netherlands at Colombo (SSC), ICC Champions Trophy, 2002/03

Wisden Cricketer of the Year 1992
Best First-Class Bowling: 8-17, Glamorgan v Sussex (Swansea) 1997

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Career Statistics:
TESTS
(including 11/10/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 82 111 21 920 45 10.22 0 0 18 0

O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 2569.1 490 8292 357 23.22 7-76 22 5 43.1 3.22

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 21/09/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 248 131 43 917 37 10.42 67.13 0 0 30 0

O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 2021.2 134 9396 395 23.78 7-36 13 13 30.7 4.64

FIRST-CLASS
(1987/88 - 2002/03; last updated 15/10/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 211 255 55 2512 64 12.56 0 4 57 0

O R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 6075.1 19697 896 21.98 8-17 60 14 40.6 3.24

LIST A LIMITED OVERS
(1988/89 - 2002/03; last updated 16/10/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 378 201 61 1463 45 10.45 0 0 47 0

O R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 3050.3 13812 620 22.27 7-36 23 17 29.5 4.52



If you consider these as poor then i don't know what you consider as good. I said he will not be picked because since he has been dropped he will now be picked on the basis of his performances which i think will not improve and there are also other good bowlers coming up such as Irfan and balaji.

 

[V Reddy]

Mohammad Sami



TESTS
(including 03/10/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 4 5 4 6 6* 6.00 18.18 0 0 0 0

O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 159.3 29 486 14 34.71 5-36 1 0 68.3 3.04

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 21/09/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 13 6 5 6 4* 6.00 20.68 0 0 2 0

O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 101.2 3 490 15 32.66 4-44 1 0 40.5 4.83

FIRST-CLASS
(1999/00 - 2002/03; last updated 15/10/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 25 32 22 151 41* 15.10 0 0 10 0

O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 773.2 140 2610 98 26.63 6-72 5 0 47.3 3.37

LIST A LIMITED OVERS
(1999/00 - 2002/03; last updated 16/10/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 29 16 6 56 15 5.60 0 0 5 0

O R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 224.2 1092 38 28.73 4-44 2 0 35.4 4.86