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    10 best all rounders ever.

    The ten best all-rounder ever in your opinion.

    1. Sir Garfield Sobers
    2. Imran Khan
    3. Ian Botham
    4. Keith Miller
    5. Sir Richard Hadlee
    6. Wasim Akram
    7. Kapil Dev
    8. Mike Proctor
    9. Ritchie Benaud
    10. Tony Greig

    A few guys there like Akram, Benaud and Hadlee and who you might not consider all-rounders, which is fair enough. They're like diamonds, true all rounders. It's like taking 12 men on to the field. And there are so few of them. I think it's like spin bowlers. Warne reminded us of the value of having a good spin bowler. I think Freddie has reminded us all of the value of a good all-rounder. Problem is... there's so few of them. From what I've seen, Shane Watson is a total waste of time.

    Anyway the top 2 are a mortal lock for me. Easy picks. I picked Botham because of his sudden impact on games and it's often said he was much greater than his stats indicated. It's a shame people like Jack Hobbs and Keith Miller didn't try their best all the time. Miller could have gone on to be as great at Imran Khan I believe, but he was there for fun and was just as likely to get stumped charging down the pitch trying to hit a six. Hadlee I don't rate as highly as others and I think stats influence people too much when he's talked about. One of the greatest though. Comparing Hadlee to Botham is like comparing Warne to Flintoff in the Ashes. Warne made handy runs and got many more wickets and is clearly the better bowler. But Flintoff was more likely to impact the game in both way in more effective ways... and like Botham, did them in all the right places. Be it bowling Australia out on day 4 of the fifth tests. Making an extra 50 runs with Simon Jones at Edgbaston... he was just the man for the hour. I love Akram to no ends and if you consider him an all-rounder, he's in there. Dev may be overrated or underrated... I haven't decided. Getting that many sub-continent wickets as a seamer is impressive. Tough to guage Proctor since he was there in SA's finest period... but his all-round contributions are clear. Benaud I had no idea was that great until I read some stuff on him recently... not just cricket's greatest commentator. And who doesn't love Tony Greig - England's greatest sledger. Saying the West Indies would grovell, or mocking Hookes at back pad, or roughing up Dennis Lillee by signalling four everytime he hit a four off Lillee... great character. Just as great when he riles Bill Lawry up. His century against Australia in the 74/75 Ashes is just hilarious to see how mad he made the bowlers. Great character.

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    Tony Greig?

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    Had a bowling average around 32 - not too bad. Had a batting average over 40.

    Saved England in the West Indies, during one of Mike Dennes' first series as captain. By his own admission, the West Indies were the better team. He took about 13 wicket in that test match after Boycott gave him some runs to bowl at. In the batting department he was underrated. 8 centuries against high class bowling. His two best were:

    One against Australia against Lillee and Thompson on a wicket that suited Lillee and Thompson. Another completely contrasting one in India, where he showed great patience against guys like Bishan Bedi, and took nearly 7 hours to get a century. Great patience.

    Also finding a 10th all-rounder became quite hard...

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    Ten best allrounders for me ( ranked) :

    1. Gary Sobers
    2. Imran Khan
    3. Keith Miller
    4. Kapil Dev
    5. Ian Botham
    6. Vinoo Mankad
    7. Jacques Kallis
    8. Ritchie Benaud
    9. Richard Hadlee
    10. Mike Proctor


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze
    Tony Greig?
    If you're going to pick 10, then you have to scrape the barrel a little bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    If you're going to pick 10, then you have to scrape the barrel a little bit.
    True...but I'd have the likes of Cairns and Flintoff ahead of Greig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis
    Had a bowling average around 32 - not too bad. Had a batting average over 40.
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    You've gotta have Kallis in there, and I can't see how Akram was a better allrounder than Kapil Dev. A batting average of around 31 compared to 22.64. Huh?

    Akram IMO was a bowler that could bat, whereas Kapil Dev was a genuine allrounder. Maybe not in the mould of Imran or Botham, but both aspects of his game were vital to his team's performance. Far more than Akram's batting was to Pakistan's.
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    Tony Greig i think deserved the place because he also managed to captain england quite well for a good time, but then ended up stealing some of his players, so i dunno...

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    Here are 10 of the older ones:

    Rhodes
    Hirst
    Jack Gregory
    Noble
    Giffen
    Lockwood
    Faulkner
    Frank Foster
    Mankad
    Woolley
    You know it makes sense.

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    I think Freddie is ok but he has 'abused' his role in the Ashes

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C
    Ten best allrounders for me ( ranked) :

    1. Gary Sobers
    2. Imran Khan
    3. Keith Miller
    4. Kapil Dev
    5. Ian Botham
    6. Vinoo Mankad
    7. Jacques Kallis
    8. Ritchie Benaud
    9. Richard Hadlee
    10. Mike Proctor
    i may have Hadlee ahead of Benaud but overall i agree with this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac
    Here are 10 of the older ones:

    Rhodes
    Hirst
    Jack Gregory
    Noble
    Giffen
    Lockwood
    Faulkner
    Frank Foster
    Mankad
    Woolley
    BLASPHEMY !!

    You forgot WG

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    You know, I forgot that guys like Gilchrist can be in the list.

    Gilchrist > Greig

    Oh and Cairnes batting average is a decent margin below Greig's. While his bowling is only slightly better. Freddie might make it one day, too early right now.

    And I like Kallis... but he's not there for me right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis
    6. Wasim Akram
    Are you sure Wasim belongs to No. 6 above the names you mentioned ?

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