Jenner: England have better spin bowling talent than Australia

George.Hinton · 23-02-2006, 02:57 AM

There was an article on the bbc recently where Jenner said England have more and much better spinners than Australia. Interesting and surprising comments to me.

I think England wil have some world classs spinners soon - as we say in Worcester,
the proof is in the pudding. Gareth Batty recently took 7-23 and Panesar is impressing in India.

Btw, I should introduce myself - I am Chris Hinton's cousing thrice removed. I lived in Brooklyn, New York for a long time but only recently I have moved back to England.

archie mac · 23-02-2006, 03:04 AM

Welcome

Do you have a link to any articles re- the Jenner comments?

George.Hinton · 23-02-2006, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by archie mac

Welcome

Do you have a link to any articles re- the Jenner comments?

Its is mentioned in teh recent article in BBC cricket about england's new spin bowling coach. I will try to dig it up.

George.Hinton · 23-02-2006, 03:07 AM

Here it is

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...nd/4689446.stm

SirBloody Idiot · 23-02-2006, 03:07 AM

Batty took 7-23 against a West Indies domestic team didn't he? Also, Panesar hasn't really done anything of note in India purely on stats.

Australia have a better spin bowling attack in my opinion.

archie mac · 23-02-2006, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by George.Hinton

Here it is

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...nd/4689446.stm

Thanks for that.

I don't know it that will relate into any Test bowling super stars, but would be great for cricket if England could find a leg spinner of Test class. The last one I can think of would have been Doug Wright

FaaipDeOiad · 23-02-2006, 03:23 AM

Got a link, by any chance?

I find this a very strange comment. Leaving Warne and MacGill out of it (even though both are likely to be around for several more years), South Australia alone has two extremely promising spinners coming through right now. In a few years I think Australia will be doing okay in that area.

edit: whoops.

steds · 23-02-2006, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad

Got a link, by any chance?

Scroll up to the fourth post. Only a passing reference.

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I have spoken to (Australian leg-spin coach) Terry Jenner at length and he argues that what we have at junior level in terms of quantity and quality far outweighs what they have available in Australia.

Nnanden · 23-02-2006, 03:37 AM

Four posts and already doing better than his couz.

Welcome mate.

steds · 23-02-2006, 03:44 AM

It isn't Chris?

Well I'll be. I only looked at the avatar.

vic_orthdox · 23-02-2006, 03:56 AM

Over in Sri Lanka, there were a few guys from England on an ECB funded trip learning more about spin to bring back to their academy.

Jenner is a bit of a strange unit, from all reports. Reputation has been made to be fantastic because of his relationship with Warne, but I've heard a lot of other people don't find him much use at all. And doesn't have any time for someone who wants to bowl leg spin in a different manner to Warne.

social · 23-02-2006, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vic_orthdox

Over in Sri Lanka, there were a few guys from England on an ECB funded trip learning more about spin to bring back to their academy.

Jenner is a bit of a strange unit, from all reports. Reputation has been made to be fantastic because of his relationship with Warne, but I've heard a lot of other people don't find him much use at all. And doesn't have any time for someone who wants to bowl leg spin in a different manner to Warne.

Particularly not left handed anyway

howardj · 23-02-2006, 04:07 AM

Seems strange. Australia have Cullen, Bailey, Casson. There's hardly a dearth of spinners coming through the ranks.

social · 23-02-2006, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by howardj

Seems strange. Australia have Cullen, Bailey, Casson. There's hardly a dearth of spinners coming through the ranks.

Think the article refers to "juniors."

Surprised if these guys or Panesar, for example, meet that definition.

Francis · 23-02-2006, 04:59 AM

Great news! I mean of course he's talking about underneath talent... but it's great news for the future.

23-02-2006, 02:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
George.Hinton Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 83	Jenner: England have better spin bowling talent than Australia There was an article on the bbc recently where Jenner said England have more and much better spinners than Australia. Interesting and surprising comments to me. I think England wil have some world classs spinners soon - as we say in Worcester, the proof is in the pudding. Gareth Batty recently took 7-23 and Panesar is impressing in India. Btw, I should introduce myself - I am Chris Hinton's cousing thrice removed. I lived in Brooklyn, New York for a long time but only recently I have moved back to England.

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archie mac Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: canberra Australia Posts: 10,668	Welcome Do you have a link to any articles re- the Jenner comments? __________________ You know it makes sense.

23-02-2006, 03:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
FaaipDeOiad Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 18,682	Got a link, by any chance? I find this a very strange comment. Leaving Warne and MacGill out of it (even though both are likely to be around for several more years), South Australia alone has two extremely promising spinners coming through right now. In a few years I think Australia will be doing okay in that area. edit: whoops. __________________ I know a place where a royal flush Can never beat a pair Last edited by FaaipDeOiad; 23-02-2006 at 03:42 AM.

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George.Hinton Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 83	Here it is http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...nd/4689446.stm

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SirBloody Idiot Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moving the hole in the o-zone layer Posts: 8,442	Batty took 7-23 against a West Indies domestic team didn't he? Also, Panesar hasn't really done anything of note in India purely on stats. Australia have a better spin bowling attack in my opinion.

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23-02-2006, 03:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
vic_orthdox Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24,363	Over in Sri Lanka, there were a few guys from England on an ECB funded trip learning more about spin to bring back to their academy. Jenner is a bit of a strange unit, from all reports. Reputation has been made to be fantastic because of his relationship with Warne, but I've heard a lot of other people don't find him much use at all. And doesn't have any time for someone who wants to bowl leg spin in a different manner to Warne.

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Francis State Vice-Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: WELLYWOOD Posts: 1,032	Great news! I mean of course he's talking about underneath talent... but it's great news for the future.

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