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    Can someone tell me...

    ... what the point of this series was?
    The Ashes were not at stake, why are England and Australia playing a Test-series if not for The Ashes?
    Does anyone know? It's something I've been wondering for ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    ... what the point of this series was?
    The Ashes were not at stake, why are England and Australia playing a Test-series if not for The Ashes?
    Does anyone know? It's something I've been wondering for ages.
    The TCCB refused to put up the Ashes. Australia had just welcomed back the WSC defectors and were at full strength. Thats why they won 3-0.
    So THAT was your mystery ball?

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    Well, it wasn't the only reason, England didn't play anywhere near their best, and presumably that's because there was nothing at stake.
    So it was a sort of "welcome to the post-WSC World" series, then? I wondered...

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    Well it looks like an experimental twin-tour programme with the west indies and england touring aus at the same time

    here's wisden's report:
    http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/wisde...ry/153579.html

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    So, '98\99 wasn't the first time a three-Test series against England was countenanced!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    ... what the point of this series was?
    The Ashes were not at stake, why are England and Australia playing a Test-series if not for The Ashes?
    Does anyone know? It's something I've been wondering for ages.
    England/WI were not meant to tour that season, from memory India were due to tour, but PBL decided that they wanted the teams that would make the most money to tour.

    The ACB were pretty much down and out at that stage and had little to no say. MCC agreed but refused to put up the Ashes for two reasons one that it was only a 3 Test series and two because they were not meant to tour until 1982/83.
    You know it makes sense.

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    MCC? D'you mean The TCCB?
    If so, they were quite right not to put-up The Ashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    MCC? D'you mean The TCCB?
    If so, they were quite right not to put-up The Ashes.
    MCC ran England tours for many many years, but most likely stopped in the 60s I think, I just prefer to call them that.

    I watched every ball of this strange series, where one week Aust would play the Windies and cop a flogging. The next they would play England and win with ease. Plus they would all be playing ODI games in-between times.

    The one thing I remember is England refusing to wear coloured clothing for the OD games.
    And a game where Brearley put everyone, including the WK (I think) on the boundary when the WI needed four to win a OD match

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac
    MCC ran England tours for many many years, but most likely stopped in the 60s I think, I just prefer to call them that.
    MCC relinquished control of the game in England in 1968, and The TCCB and another party (can't remember the name) was formed.
    These were superseded in 1997 by The ECB.
    However, English teams overseas still reprisented MCC until 1977\78, and still wore the MCC colours until at least 1987\88.
    I watched every ball of this strange series, where one week Aust would play the Windies and cop a flogging. The next they would play England and win with ease. Plus they would all be playing ODI games in-between times.
    What, the Tests were mixed with each other? Aus would play Eng then WI then Eng? That's the only time that's ever happened!

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    What about the 1912 tri-series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    What about the 1912 tri-series?
    94 years later and we are still waiting for another tri series (Tests) I think England would be the best place maybe an ENG/IND/PAK series would be the go?

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    Yeah, then Grace Road might get a Test (I wish )
    Or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac
    94 years later and we are still waiting for another tri series (Tests) I think England would be the best place maybe an ENG/IND/PAK series would be the go?
    With the ICC Test Championship it became (briefly) unneccessary.
    It's still unneccessary now - what we now need is a return to the original simple Championship concept, rather than the current Rankings system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    What about the 1912 tri-series?
    Ha! Thought I'd catch somebody.
    That was a tri-series. This was not - England did not play West Indies, did they?
    It was simply two series for Australia played concurrently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Ha! Thought I'd catch somebody.
    That was a tri-series. This was not - England did not play West Indies, did they?
    It was simply two series for Australia played concurrently.
    Didn't stop Eng playing Aus then SA

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