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andyc

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mikeW said:
His record at state leavel is very good, much better than Clark's!
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If that was anything to go by, Johnson and Dorey wouldn't have been given a go.
 
duffer

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Still can't fathom the inclusion of Mitch. He looked out of his depth against the Kiwis and hasn't looked anything spectacular for Queensland whenever I've seen him. Shouldn't be in the squad ahead of Gillespie.
 
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mikeW said:
His record at state leavel is very good, much better than Clark's!
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It is not much better than clarks, what are you talking about?

Clark: ave: 27.94, er: 4.19
Lewis: ave: 26.62, er: 4.67

Lewis' average slightly better, Clarks ER slightly better.

And we dont want to get into whos record is better in ODI's, do we?
 
aussie

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what is wrong with these Australian selectors :wacko: , what did Johnson do in NZ that looked anything like he is ready for any form of International circket, if they could rush Watson back into the squad which i agree with why not rush Tait back?, geeez
 
aussie

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howardj said:
Dorey and Hopes were pretty much exposed in the VB Series, and were deservedly omitted. However, Phil Jacques most definitely should be in that squad. How the selectors think that Katich is the better option, still escapes me. Anyway, good to see Watson back - hopefully he gets a chance with the bat.
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well in defense to our odd selectors if they were not going to pick Jaques as the opener they wouldn't be much sense picking him at all. Has we have saying all the time Jaques is obviosuly a better option that Katich, but in his own way Katich has been pretty good in the VB series without being as spectacular has the rest of the top 7. So for Jaques to come in Katich simply has to fail miserably sometime in the coming year.

With reference to Hopes again, for me i think he should have been in the squad, yea his bowling has been a little exposed, but other than the 2 games at the SCG when he was smashed his bowling has been fairly economical while his batting in the few times he battd looked good, for me i hope the selectors dont discard him for good..
 
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aussie said:
With reference to Hopes again, for me i think he should have been in the squad, yea his bowling has been a little exposed, but other than the 2 games at the SCG when he was smashed his bowling has been fairly economical while his batting in the few times he battd looked good, for me i hope the selectors dont discard him for good..
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Yeah, I think for guys like Watson and Hopes to be of any value, they have to batting in the top seven (ideally in the top six). This is not likely to be the case in the current side, as Clarke or Hussey deservedly occupy that spot. With both Hopes and Watson (more so with Hopes) their bowling is not, of itself, good enough to justify a place in the team. Therefore, if they're batting at eight - where they will hardly get a hit anyway - you may as well just pick a specialist bowler and put that bowler at number nine, behind Hogg at eight.
 
aussie

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mikeW said:
past 3-4 years.
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well maybe Lewis has been better domestically, but come on Clark has been good if that superb since coming in to the OD team & has such deserved his place over Lewis in the OD team if their ever is a debate over their position in the future.
 
mikeW

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aussie said:
well maybe Lewis has been better domestically, but come on Clark has been good if that superb since coming in to the OD team & has such deserved his place over Lewis in the OD team if their ever is a debate over their position in the future.
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Superb? thats pushing it. hes been serviceable and has been given more opurtunities than Lewis
 
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just dont understand why mitch johnson was picked, with no Mcgrath i was thinking thats the selectors would consider experience.. along the lines of bringing back gillespie or even kasper... but good to see watson making a return..
 
aussie

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mikeW said:
Superb? thats pushing it. hes been serviceable and has been given more opurtunities than Lewis
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did i say he was superb?, but IMO from what i've seen of them Clark seems a better bowler, a better outfielder & a better batsman.
 
mikeW

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aussie said:
did i say he was superb?, but IMO from what i've seen of them Clark seems a better bowler, a better outfielder & a better batsman.
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Are you serious? Lewis is a much better feilder, Clark would be one of the worst in world cricket although he is a much better batsmen than Lewis not that thats much of an acheivement.
 
aussie

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mikeW said:
Are you serious? Lewis is a much better feilder, Clark would be one of the worst in world cricket although he is a much better batsmen than Lewis not that thats much of an acheivement.
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I have seen anything that fantastic from Lewis as a fielder but Clark throughout the VB series has been very good patrolling the boundaries at fine-leg & third-man & has a very good arm, cant see how he can be one of the worst in world cricket. Not saying Lewis is bad but IMO Clark is better in that area, but its a matter of opinion..
 
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mikeW said:
Why do i find that hard to believe? thats a pretty poor excuse.
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Particularly considering the sitter Katich shelled yesterday. And from what I've seen of Jaques in the field, he's no Symonds but he's certainly good enough. He can't be as bad as Bevan was towards the end. Oh wait, was that why he was dropped too?
 
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