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Thread: Vaughan takes Fleming's style of captaincy.

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    Vaughan takes Fleming's style of captaincy.

    Vaughan takes Fleming's style of captaincy.

    A very interesting article.

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    Quite interesting. I also never knew that Fleming ever played for Yorkshire, I thought he always played for Middlesex.

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    Thought it was a good read. I think it provides insight into any leader who wants his players to play FOR him, not in spite of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCap_Fan
    Quite interesting. I also never knew that Fleming ever played for Yorkshire, I thought he always played for Middlesex.
    He played for Nottinghamshire last year


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    They are pretty similar now that I think about it.

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    I think we all need to thank Fleming for doing that - Vaughan's certainly not doing a bad job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    I think we all need to thank Fleming for doing that - Vaughan's certainly not doing a bad job!
    How about the English team throw the next series against us and we'll be even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltman
    How about the English team throw the next series against us and we'll be even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltman
    How about the English team throw the next series against us and we'll be even.
    Compromise - we'll lend you our physio next time you come over (although he probably helped out last time anyway)

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    Fleming is definitely a calm (relatively) leader. Two times I remember slight dumby spitting...

    After 2001 Pakistan test at Eden Park where NZ lose 9 for 25 on the last day, during a press interview he asks the reporter what they would expect with "a C Team", as NZ had a whole team basically on the injured list at the time.

    Last year in South Africa, the big man's frustration at what a plonker GC Smith is, combined with the fact that they couldn't win (even though they should of!) to save themselves, led to his mock celebration at getting the plonker out. Plonker Smith (lol at Smith running into that big blow up drinks trolley or whatever it was).

    Other then that, for a man whose team has been on the end of some beatings (and of course in the good times as well), he is certainly a calming influence on the field - which must be where Mr Vettori gets it from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirjeremy11
    Last year in South Africa, the big man's frustration at what a plonker GC Smith is, combined with the fact that they couldn't win (even though they should of!) to save themselves, led to his mock celebration at getting the plonker out. Plonker Smith (lol at Smith running into that big blow up drinks trolley or whatever it was).
    I remember watching that and there was no way the kiwis deserved to win, they couldn't simply force the pace at all, and the way Mills went at smith was disgusting, i mean there's sledging but that's was just outright verbal abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autobahn
    I remember watching that and there was no way the kiwis deserved to win, they couldn't simply force the pace at all, and the way Mills went at smith was disgusting, i mean there's sledging but that's was just outright verbal abuse.
    Nah it was good fun.. Not only was mills smashed everywhere, but he was on the losing team and he his hair is like a brillo pad.. don't think smithers was phased
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    Nah it was good fun.. Not only was mills smashed everywhere, but he was on the losing team and he his hair is like a brillo pad.. don't think smithers was phased
    He was probably doing his best not to fall on the ground laughing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    Nah it was good fun.. Not only was mills smashed everywhere, but he was on the losing team and he his hair is like a brillo pad.. don't think smithers was phased
    Must've been watching a different series. Mills was NZ's best bowler easily.

    And yes, NZ could easily have won any one of the matches in that series (if you were take the games from say, 75% of the way through) and should definitely have won at least 2, maybe 3.

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    Every match went to the last 5 overs where it could have gone either way..in the end, South Africa came out on top when it mattered.

    4-0 was certainly flattering and im not convinced South Africa are that far ahead of NZ in ODI's.

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