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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    I gave it 4.5 stars
    Out of a hundred presumably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    From 'donninsh' I presume you mean 'scohool masterly'. If so, you are correct. Thats Guha's nature. I don't particularly like the chap. He is too full of himself and seems to have a very high opinion of himself (not difficult to to have such an attitude when you come across millions with such shallow knowledge of the game compared to yourself and yet behaving like pundits).

    I too avoided his books for similar reasons once but starting with the anthology, I moved to this one and find it a good history though a heavy read.
    I find his writing to be very prejudiced. Read CofFF six years ago and can't remember a great deal. It felt as if he started the book with certain theories and then found facts to fit them and not the other way round. For the most part, the book had clearly defined heroes and villains, guys who do only right and those who do only bad stuff, and well-defined rights and wrongs. It was very difficult to take a history book with such black and white characters seriously.

    I do enjoy his lighter writings even though he "is too full of himself ".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    Out of a hundred presumably.
    That was a low blow
    You know it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    From 'donninsh' I presume you mean 'scohool masterly'. If so, you are correct. Thats Guha's nature. I don't particularly like the chap. He is too full of himself and seems to have a very high opinion of himself (not difficult to to have such an attitude when you come across millions with such shallow knowledge of the game compared to yourself and yet behaving like pundits).

    I too avoided his books for similar reasons once but starting with the anthology, I moved to this one and find it a good history though a heavy read.
    SJS - have you read Richard Cashman's Patrons, Players and the Crowd ? It was published in 1980 but is available online (Orient Longman, Indiaplaza etc) for the original prize of < 200. The casual and non-Indian readers would find the subject heavy, but you should like it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    That was a low blow
    The book just doesn't evoke the period. There needs to be a DVD release of this series with a full length documentary featuring all the surviving players. They waited 50 years to do a decent Bodyline documentary. Two of the players have already passed away and others are in their seventies, most of the England players are over sixty.

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    Perhaps it's an age dependent thing - I was 16 in 1976 and the way the book reawakened long forgotten memories of mine is one of its great strengths - if I'd been 6 or 26 it may have been different.

    Anyway it's a good job we don't all like the same things - for what it's worth I'm with Archie on the 4.5 stars

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    That was a low blow
    It was high enough to go completely over my head.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Perhaps it's an age dependent thing - I was 16 in 1976 and the way the book reawakened long forgotten memories of mine is one of its great strengths - if I'd been 6 or 26 it may have been different.

    Anyway it's a good job we don't all like the same things - for what it's worth I'm with Archie on the 4.5 stars
    A discerning man

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    It was high enough to go completely over my head.
    I like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    A discerning man
    For some reason, that invoked in me a strong desire to buy you a drink.

    I like that
    Great, but I am still discombobulated. I hate knowing (or, as is often the case, mistakenly thinking) that I have missed something. What be it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by neville cardus View Post

    Great, but I am still discombobulated. I hate knowing (or, as is often the case, mistakenly thinking) that I have missed something. What be it?

    I was trying to be facetious mate

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    Guh?

    That (as nearly everyone has said at some time or another) is it. Sleep deprivation's obviously taking its toll. I am off to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapioca View Post

    I do enjoy his lighter writings even though he "is too full of himself ".
    Spot On.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapioca View Post
    SJS - have you read Richard Cashman's Patrons, Players and the Crowd ? It was published in 1980 but is available online (Orient Longman, Indiaplaza etc) for the original prize of < 200. The casual and non-Indian readers would find the subject heavy, but you should like it.
    No. I haven't (hadn't even heard of it) and am surprised that this guy has written a book on Indian cricket which is historical in nature.

    I have The Oxford Companion to Australian Cricket which is edited by him but I didn't even notice his name on it, frank;y.

    On seeing your post I checked and found that he has written a book on Lokmanya Tilak, an Indian political leader of the 19th century as well as co-authored a book on Spofforth with Arlott. Quite a varied list that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neville cardus View Post
    For some reason, that invoked in me a strong desire to buy you a drink.



    Great, but I am still discombobulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    No. I haven't (hadn't even heard of it) and am surprised that this guy has written a book on Indian cricket which is historical in nature.

    I have The Oxford Companion to Australian Cricket which is edited by him but I didn't even notice his name on it, frank;y.

    On seeing your post I checked and found that he has written a book on Lokmanya Tilak, an Indian political leader of the 19th century as well as co-authored a book on Spofforth with Arlott. Quite a varied list that.
    SJS, if you want to sample it, please send a mail to general.tapioca@gmail.com I have the scanned pdfs of a couple of chapters.



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