Cricket Books

[Engle]

From Best of the Best :
Viv Richards is an interesting case, falling outside the top 20 due to the number of runs he scored against statistically weak attacks.

Cant imagine this realistically, when he was chosen as Wisden's Top 5 of the last century and generally acknowledged amongst his peers and followers as the supreme striker of the sphere

[pasag]

Anyone read Botham's latest? Seems to have said Viv > Bradman, but that could be the media misrepresenting it though. Here's a quote from an interview though:

"Viv and I were great for each other, and I regard him as the best player who ever played cricket. Bradman got all the records, but I wonder if Bradman could have adjusted to 20-, 40-, 50-over cricket as well as Test matches? When you look at footage from the 1930s, there's no science about the field placings. They were the same when the batsman arrived at the crease as they were when he'd scored 300. Obviously Bradman was an exceptional talent, but I find it hard to comprehend anyone ever being better than Viv."

http://sport.independent.co.uk/crick...cle3289163.ece

[archie mac]

Originally Posted by pasag

Anyone read Botham's latest? Seems to have said Viv > Bradman, but that could be the media misrepresenting it though. Here's a quote from an interview though:

"Viv and I were great for each other, and I regard him as the best player who ever played cricket. Bradman got all the records, but I wonder if Bradman could have adjusted to 20-, 40-, 50-over cricket as well as Test matches? When you look at footage from the 1930s, there's no science about the field placings. They were the same when the batsman arrived at the crease as they were when he'd scored 300. Obviously Bradman was an exceptional talent, but I find it hard to comprehend anyone ever being better than Viv."

http://sport.independent.co.uk/crick...cle3289163.ece

Never said that, in fact if i remember correctly he wrote Bradman is the greatest ever

[Matt79]

I got "Inside Story" by Gideon Haigh and David Frith for Xmas - finally got a chance to sit down and have a quick flick through it today - looks very good. And no Sean - if its taken me a week to get a chance to sit down and begin to read it, I don't have time to do a review mate...

[archie mac]

Originally Posted by Matt79

I got "Inside Story" by Gideon Haigh and David Frith for Xmas - finally got a chance to sit down and have a quick flick through it today - looks very good. And no Sean - if its taken me a week to get a chance to sit down and begin to read it, I don't have time to do a review mate...

Your in luck mate, I have already written a review

In fact we have two

[Matt79]

Fine then, be that way.

[archie mac]

Originally Posted by Matt79

Fine then, be that way.

On the other hand the Bobby Simpson book you read.....

[Matt79]

can't see a link on the site for them though...

[archie mac]

Originally Posted by Matt79

can't see a link on the site for them though...

No, we are going to make some changes and I am saving those reviews and the one on Dizzy's new book until then

[Lillian Thomson]

Originally Posted by pasag

Anyone read Botham's latest? Seems to have said Viv > Bradman, but that could be the media misrepresenting it though. Here's a quote from an interview though:

"Viv and I were great for each other, and I regard him as the best player who ever played cricket. Bradman got all the records, but I wonder if Bradman could have adjusted to 20-, 40-, 50-over cricket as well as Test matches? When you look at footage from the 1930s, there's no science about the field placings. They were the same when the batsman arrived at the crease as they were when he'd scored 300. Obviously Bradman was an exceptional talent, but I find it hard to comprehend anyone ever being better than Viv."

http://sport.independent.co.uk/crick...cle3289163.ece

We've discussed Botham's pile of self congratulatory, factually incorrect pile of pointless dross a few pages back. Botham says in the Legends of Cricket television series that Richards is the best player he's ever seen and he finds it hard to believe anyone could be better.

[neville cardus]

Originally Posted by pasag

Anyone read Botham's latest?

It is being debated with no small measure of chagrin by my comrades in intellectual snobbery over on R.S.C.:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.s...8f331c5a862c00

[neville cardus]

Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson

We've discussed Botham's pile of self congratulatory, factually incorrect pile of pointless dross a few pages back. Botham says in the Legends of Cricket television series that Richards is the best player he's ever seen and he finds it hard to believe anyone could be better.

By far the best take that I have read on it is this: "He is guilty of inflating the worth of Viv Richards because Richards caned Botham himself. It makes Botham feel better. It heightens his ego to think 'this guy Richards absolutely flogged me, he made me look second rate, therefore Viv Richards must have been the best batsman of all time'.

"It is an ego-boosting and preservation exercise on the part of Botham. It has nothing to do with whether Viv Richards was actually as good as Botham says. It is all about preserving Botham's opinion of Botham."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.s...9836f80dc4efba

[Lillian Thomson]

Originally Posted by neville cardus

By far the best take that I have read on it is this: "He is guilty of inflating the worth of Viv Richards because Richards caned Botham himself. It makes Botham feel better. It heightens his ego to think 'this guy Richards absolutely flogged me, he made me look second rate, therefore Viv Richards must have been the best batsman of all time'.

"It is an ego-boosting and preservation exercise on the part of Botham. It has nothing to do with whether Viv Richards was actually as good as Botham says. It is all about preserving Botham's opinion of Botham."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.s...9836f80dc4efba

I don't think that has any credibility whatsoever. The fact that he and Viv found "fame" whilst living together, are best friends and Viv is Godfather to his children is morely likely what makes him slightly biased.

[archie mac]

Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson

I don't think that has any credibility whatsoever. The fact that he and Viv found "fame" whilst living together, are best friends and Viv is Godfather to his children is morely likely what makes him slightly biased.

And the fact that Viv was a bloody good batsman!

[Lillian Thomson]

Originally Posted by neville cardus

It is being debated with no small measure of chagrin by my comrades in intellectual snobbery over on R.S.C.:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.s...8f331c5a862c00

I've no doubt they're greatly troubled by his constant use of the phrase "try and" instead of "try to".